Air-cooled E6600 at 4054MHz

[sierra_bound]

CPU: Conroe E6600 Stepping 5
M/B: Asus P5W DH Deluxe
BIOS: 0078
VCore: 1.65v
Memory: Corsair 8000UL
Cooling: Tuniq Tower 120

This is the best I've managed with air cooling. I think it's okay. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/4504-4-4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/32m12m58s.jpg

Updated speed

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/4112.jpg

[charlie]

Nice... so about 3900mHz 24/7 stable?

[sierra_bound]

Yeah, 3.9GHz is probably 24/7 stable. The newer BIOS's have helped. BTW, there are no mods to the board.

[principino1984]

nice score man!

do you think to use that vcore for the daily use?

Marco

[sierra_bound]

Thanks. :) No, I would not recommend 1.65v for daily use with air cooling. 1.575-1.6v is probably a better option. My CPU will do 4GHz with 1.6v and 3.9GHz with 1.55v. But it takes 1.65-1.66v to get those last MHz. ;)

[principino1984]

Thanks. :) No, I would not recommend 1.65v for daily use with air cooling. 1.575-1.6v is probably a better option. My CPU will do 4GHz with 1.6v and 3.9GHz with 1.55v. But it takes 1.65-1.66v to get those last MHz. ;)


Ok, thats what I thought... I think the max to use in daily (under liquid or air cooling) is 1.55v real (1.6 from bios...). Am I right?

Anyway what's the stepping of you e6600?

Marco

ps. nice one u've got over there :toast:

[sierra_bound]

Yes, 1.55v would be good for everyday use. Even 1.6v is high.

If I set VCore to 1.6v in BIOS, AiBooster will read around 1.58v. Vdroop appears to be 0.02-0.03 under load.

[principino1984]

Yes, 1.55v would be good for everyday use. Even 1.6v is high.

If I set VCore to 1.6v in BIOS, AiBooster will read around 1.58v. Vdroop appears to be 0.02-0.03 under load.


thanx for your answers! :toast:

Hope to get my conroe up to yours :D

Marco

[freecableguy]

hmmm....4GHz on air...who would have thought ;)

great work thought!!! :)

[thunderstruck!]

Can you how us the temps after full load? 1.55-6v? Just 10 minutes after 2x prime would suffice.

[sierra_bound]

I have not run dual Prime and probably won't because this is primarily a benching system. Running single SuperPi 32M at 1.6v, load temps, according to AiBooster, are in the low 40's. I'm using a Delta 120mm fan to help cool the RAM and the board. That probably helps lower the temp a few degrees. I imagine dual Prime would be in the 50's. But that's just a guess.

@ FCG - Thanks. :) How's your board doing?

[theteamaqua]

sweeet! im getting tower 120

[guess2098]

wooow! i save that $5

hahaha

very nice CPU

[sierra_bound]

LOL. Yes, you can keep the $5. :D Thanks.

[theteamaqua]

umm by new BIOS u mean 602?? cuz mine will arrive monday .. heh

[Marioace]

Yeah, 3.9GHz is probably 24/7 stable. The newer BIOS's have helped. BTW, there are no mods to the board.i know that there are some

[sierra_bound]

i know that there are some
You misunderstood. I meant my board is not modded. ;)

[bachus_anonym]

Sweet E6600, sierra. That ASUS P5W DH complements it very nicely for 450MHz @ 1066fsb bootstrap :up:
Any better cooling any time soon? :)

[sierra_bound]

Thanks bachus. :) Probably will try single-stage cooling next weekend. The E6600 may be a better for air or water cooling. I don't know how much more I can raise the FSB given the fact that my board does not have Vmch mod.

Out of curiosity I decided to try dual-SP2004 with VCore at 1.6v. Under load, AiBooster was reading 58-59C. I'm sure it was probably higher than that. After ten minutes I decided I had enough of that. :) One of the disadvantages of using air cooling.

[mine]

Sweet E6600, sierra. That ASUS P5W DH complements it very nicely for 450MHz @ 1066fsb bootstrap :up:
Any better cooling any time soon? :)


still find , one of the most overlooked , but fascinating results is this one :

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=104484

same ram , same clock (+ 1 %) , same heatsink, E 6700

and a double ! pi 1M run.... 12.2


a 32M........12m 40


on a MSI 975 ....

E 6700 ..or rumours about better performance on msi and foxconn boards ? ..

[sierra_bound]

Yes, those are good times. But I was using XP SP2. He was using Server 2003 which is worth around 30 seconds in 32M. I was also running 4-4-4 timings because I was testing the FSB limits and wanted to eliminate memory as a factor. I will post some better results done with Server 2003 in the near future. :)

Here's an old result of mine done with XP SP2 and an E6700. Now subtract about 30 seconds from the time below and what do you get? :D ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/32m4100.jpg

[mine]

thanks sierra for clearing this

my post was not meant to debase your results

they are really great in every aspect .... :clap:

[sierra_bound]

No offense taken. :) But the OS makes a big difference, especially in 32M. I've pretty much finished FSB testing, so now I can focus on other things, including getting better times. ;)

[Duckmann]

Very sweet :)

[fredyama]

Awesome on air results, Sierra-san:toast:

[BlackX]

Is Tuniq Tower 120 the best air cooler for E6600?

[kiwi]

What about disabling 1 core, it allowed +80Mhz on bad axe :)

[hipogtr]

This is the best I've managed with air cooling. I think it's okay. :)


LOL! Yeh, just OK. :D Sweet air clocking with step 5.

[mursaat]

Wow I can't wait, I think this totally proves 4ghz can be done with air. coolaler and you, with stepping 5. So it's a done thing? or it's like AMD steppings? can we hope something more in release chips/future chips?

Thanks for the info sierra ;)
Is Tuniq Tower 120 the best air cooler for E6600?I've read 3 or 4 reviews showing the Tower120 is on par with the TT BT (+-1c). But it's more expensive even when it comes without the 120 fan. Add that to the fact Tuniq is nowhere to be seen here in Spain and that leaves me with the hopes that my TTBT is OK for a E6600@1.55/1.6 :D

[sierra_bound]

Awesome on air results, Sierra-san:toast:
Thank you, Fred-san. :)

[GGK]

wow conreo looks pretty good.
now i need a reason to go build a new system.
Maybe it will just die for some odd reason;) .

[sierra_bound]

Now working on improving Pi times. I'll see if I can do 32M in under 13mins with air. ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/32m13m13.jpg

[Direwolf]

Throw in a few peppers inside the case to spice up the already hot action! Looking very good, I envy you:bows:

[veryhumid]

Anyway what's the stepping of you e6600?

Marco

It says in the first post in the cpu-z screenshots... stepping 5 :fact:

[BlackX]

Wow I can't wait, I think this totally proves 4ghz can be done with air. coolaler and you, with stepping 5. So it's a done thing? or it's like AMD steppings? can we hope something more in release chips/future chips?

Thanks for the info sierra ;)I've read 3 or 4 reviews showing the Tower120 is on par with the TT BT (+-1c). But it's more expensive even when it comes without the 120 fan. Add that to the fact Tuniq is nowhere to be seen here in Spain and that leaves me with the hopes that my TTBT is OK for a E6600@1.55/1.6 :D

Thanx :toast:

[mursaat]

BlackX: I see you're from Lithuania, can you get the Tuniq there? Here in Spain they're not available :confused:

[realsmasher]

in germany they are available for around 50€(40$ ?).

is there no way to get them in spain ?

[kiwi]

in germany they are available for around 50€(40$ ?).

is there no way to get them in spain ?

50€ = ~$64 and if the place where you buy in germany ships abroad then yes you can get it :) Or you got to have friends in germany :toast:

[ZeroX]

I haven't seem them here in Spain too, so if we want one, we have to buy out of Spain (Germany is a good site:P).

The TT BT is a strong one, and its very easy to get (is everywhere)

[WeedJunk]

Nice results on air sierra_bound! :toast:

[mursaat]

I haven't seem them here in Spain too, so if we want one, we have to buy out of Spain (Germany is a good site:P).

The TT BT is a strong one, and its very easy to get (is everywhere)Yea but 55€, plus the fan, shipping... and the TTBT is 36€.

//OT: I hope you like my sig, dunno if many here will understand it :D

[realsmasher]

50€ = ~$64

how could it happen, that i think reverse ?


and the TTBT is 36€

but isn't it much louder ?

[sai]

Holy mother of christ! 1.65v that's sick dude, even more impressive than the actual 4.05ghz :D
My ninja would be dying at this kinda voltage (hm need some 120mm deltas), I'll try a 1.55v run now.

[Kesnel]

Nice clocking sierra. :toast:

Can I just ask, what bios are you using for these results?

[sierra_bound]

Nice clocking sierra. :toast:

Can I just ask, what bios are you using for these results?
Thanks, Kesnel and everyone else. :toast:

See first post. BIOS is 0078. ;)

[eva2000]

hey sierra can you do a 32m run at 9x423fsb with 423mhz 4-4-3-8 1:1 so i can compare with my badaxe :)

http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975x/975xbx_results/E6600_1/swiftechG4/corsair/PC5400UL/268_284/E6600_2/1304_1067FSB/9x/533/423-423-4438-1.511-1.725-1.395-2.2/superpi-32m_single_13m49s609ms_tn.png (http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975x/975xbx_results/E6600_1/swiftechG4/corsair/PC5400UL/268_284/E6600_2/1304_1067FSB/9x/533/423-423-4438-1.511-1.725-1.395-2.2/superpi-32m_single_13m49s609ms.png)

thanks

[ZeroX]

Sierra i didn't say anything in my first post, but GREAT resutls man! You're at 450fsb on 1066fsb strap, aren't you? A good board have you there..

/OT:ROFL, I didn't notice, very nice and ingenious sig :toast:

[tys90]

Nice results...I can only hope for such when I get my retail E6600

[sierra_bound]

@eva2000 - I will give it a try, but probably not today. Unfortunately I have to do a lot of errands today.

@ZeroX - Thanks. The P5W DH BIOS is set up differently than the Bad Axe. You dial in the FSB frequency, then select the memory ratio. Or, you can do it the other way around. 450FSB was done at 1:1.

@tys90 - Thanks :)

Did do one 32M before I have to head out the door. CPU speed reading in AiBooster fluctuates, which is why it doesn't match CPU-Z sometimes. Was using Corsair 6400C3's running at CL3. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/32m13m9.jpg

[Freez]

Nice results

[sierra_bound]

hey sierra can you do a 32m run at 9x423fsb with 423mhz 4-4-3-8 1:1 so i can compare with my badaxe :)

thanks
Per your request.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/9948/423x94ys.jpg

[alpha0ne]

Thats close, only 9s better :clap:

[eva2000]

thanks mate... so memset shown timings are the ones by default when you boot up from 9x423fsb 1:1 4-4-3-8 ? they look alot tighter than what bad axe boots up with.. guess it depends on the ram and board

yeah 9 seconds diff for 9x423.1fsb 2GB ram vs 9x423.35fsb 1GB ram

[sierra_bound]

If I have time later this week, I will try the same test with my Corsair 8000UL's which are 2X512MB. The RAM used in the above test, Corsair 6400C3, will run at 3-3-3 at that speed. 4-4-3 are fairly relaxed timings.

I've used the Bad Axe. The P5W DH is faster clock-for-clock, at least in SuperPi. There's no doubt about that in my mind. It will beat the Bad Axe in SuperPi 32M every time.

[eva2000]

thanks sierra.. much appreciated :D

[sierra_bound]

Best air-cooled 32M time in world. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/32m13m7s.jpg

[gocchin]

I've used the Bad Axe. The P5W DH is faster clock-for-clock, at least in SuperPi. There's no doubt about that in my mind. It will beat the Bad Axe in SuperPi 32M every time.

Hehe that's what I've been saying all along! Great work Sierra! You going cold with this cpu for some 32M?

[sierra_bound]

Yes, I will probably freeze the chip this weekend. :) I'm not sure I'll be able to improve the FSB that much. But I should be able to break 13 mins. May need to do the Vmch mod because I think this chip has more left in it.

[gocchin]

What were your ram timings on that run? I was able to do 12m 20.xxxs @ 4249 ram at 4-4-4-5 but it looks like you could be faster. :)

[sierra_bound]

I was running 3-4-3-1. And contrary to the myth being spread, timings do matter on the Conroe platform, especially in 32M. ;)

[gocchin]

I was running 3-4-3-1. And contrary to the myth being spread, timings do matter on the Conroe platform, especially in 32M. ;)

Hehe agreed my friend which is why I asked. ;)

[mine]

Best air-cooled 32M time in world. :)

]

this is really decent ... congrats

[Gautam]

I was running 3-4-3-1. And contrary to the myth being spread, timings do matter on the Conroe platform, especially in 32M. ;)
So does FSB it seems, in a big way. You're nearing what i got 90ish MHz higher, but on 10x.

[sierra_bound]

Yes, high FSB definitely helps. :)

[Gautam]

Hehe, congrats on the WR, but I don't understand how you can live with a time like that. :p: I swore I was gonna do one 32M run and then go to bed my first night playing with Conroe...instead I was up for an hour longer, 13m 10 sec, 13m 08 sec, 13m 03sec...despite my eyes barely being open, I just couldn't let myself go till I broke through the 13m barrier. :D

[sierra_bound]

Believe me, I tried for a couple of days to break 13 mins. on air. But I failed. :( So it's time for SS cooling. :D

[***Deimos***]

Wow, very impressive. Hmm...wonder if Tuniq Tower 120 will fit in a shuttle PC.. might try to jury rig some kind of water cooling.

Upgrading to Conroe definetly seems well worth it for all the fun playing around with memory timings, trying to get sub 13min in SP32M ;)

Any chance you can post shots of your beautiful setup, sierra_bound?

[sierra_bound]

Setup is not so beautiful because I'm not using a case. :D Only the results are beautiful to me. ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/IMG_0635.jpg

[NiCKE^]

Who said it had to look beautiful? :)

[alpha0ne]

Setup is not so beautiful because I'm not using a case. :D Only the results are beautiful to me. ;)

Fantastic job siera :fact: :clap: :toast:

[gundamit]

Looking forward to your Vmch mod and SS cooling this weekend. Can't wait to see your max FSB and SuperPi. Photos of the SS mounting and Vmch mod would be a nice bonus. :D Your set-up looks fine. The Butterball box in the background really sets it off. ;)

[luf1c3r]

Impressive to arrive at 4ghz for air. It hurts that you don't have phase uncambio: (I had liked to see results.

[sierra_bound]

Looking forward to your Vmch mod and SS cooling this weekend. Can't wait to see your max FSB and SuperPi. Photos of the SS mounting and Vmch mod would be a nice bonus. :D Your set-up looks fine. The Butterball box in the background really sets it off. ;)
It's my lucky box. :D I may not get to Vmch mod this weekend. SS cooling should allow me to run 32M above 4GHz though.

[***Deimos***]

Kinda reminds me of the time I used to have a desk with a nice wide drawers. It was a perfect fit for an ATX motherboard... for those few blissfull years, I never had to bother with opening cases, pluging/unpluging, or dust buildup of open case... it all fit neatly in a drawer!

[Jester FPS]

Setup is not so beautiful because I'm not using a case. :D Only the results are beautiful to me. ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/IMG_0635.jpg

That heatsink looks bad ass.

[sierra_bound]

For testing, it's a lot easier to run outside of a case. Can change out components much faster. My daily system is housed in a Mountain Mods case. Best case I've ever owned.

http://img336.imageshack.us/img336/7663/img05216ml.jpg

[sierra_bound]

That heatsink looks bad ass.
That's a Tuniq Tower 120. Does a really good job. It's heavy but I've used it on boards mounted sideways in a case.

[gocchin]

UFO looking good Sierra.... :)

[sierra_bound]

Thanks, gocchin. :) The case uses eight fans. I have eight Yate Loons and as you know, they're very quiet.

[petervandamned]

Sierra

I am playing with a 6600es and air.
Asus p5w dh de luxe Mushkin xp2 6400 2 x 512
zalman 9500 with extra 120mm DELTA screamer :)
One thing i have changed was my pci-e card and took a old pci vanta vid.

almost readt to post ;) but i test new mem first next week, to high on the timings

what is your best cpu-z validation at this point ?

http://valid.x86-secret.com/cache/104352.png

could not get beyond that 450
no mods yett

[sierra_bound]

I have not tried for a screenshot higher than 4054MHz. Generally I don't like to post screens unless I can run something with it, like SuperPi 1M. For me, it has to be benchable in some form.

The biggest obstacle with unmodded board is of course FSB. Without mod, you will run into a brick wall. Lowering the multiplier does not help, at least in my case. I believe kyosen has reached 485 with 7 multiplier and a modded board. And kaz-n has hit 502 with 6x and 4:3 ratio.

[NiCKE^]

Yepp 485FSB 7x multi and watercooled N/B. I wonder what cooling Kaz-n used?

[petervandamned]

I have only tested this to see the wall :)

but in 1m i have a high 12 sec
room for improvement:)

http://tweakers.net/ext/f/0c0813502a00cb961e85e6a7d7ee0c4b/full.jpg

[sierra_bound]

Yepp 485FSB 7x multi and watercooled N/B. I wonder what cooling Kaz-n used?
I think he was using air. 502X6 is only 3GHz. :) More importantly he was using 1.975v for Vmch. In order to do 480+ you generally need at least 1.9v.


I have only tested this to see the wall :)

but in 1m i have a high 12 sec
room for improvement:)
Yes, looks like you have a good chip. :) Have fun with it.

[NiCKE^]

Hm is there any certain N/B chip or something one should get to achieve high FSB? Seems like it vary some between users.

502FSB air is insane :)

[sierra_bound]

Under 13 mins. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/32m12m58s.jpg

[eva2000]

wow congrats mate... i need better ram hehe

[fredyama]

Congrats on your U13m, David-san:clap: :clap: :clap: :toast:

[Hazzan]

It's my lucky box. :D I may not get to Vmch mod this weekend. SS cooling should allow me to run 32M above 4GHz though.

This Conroe 6600 ES or not ? :) :) :) by the way nice your chip Man :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:

[NiCKE^]

Nice Sierra_Bound! 2gb or 1gb ram?

[sierra_bound]

Thanks, Fred-san and everyone else. :)


Nice Sierra_Bound! 2gb or 1gb ram?
2GB

[NiCKE^]

I regret so much that I bought 1GB now :P
Is this with the tuniq?

[sierra_bound]

The problem is the FSB wall. I've bought some VR's and will probably do the Vmch and Vdimm mods in the near future.

[NiCKE^]

Ow, but you can run at that freq with lower volts then with air most likely :)

[sierra_bound]

Yes, less voltage with Vapochill. I think I also had a bad mount. Will give it another try either late tonight or tomorrow.

[NiCKE^]

You didn't have the same luck as PcC2iminal with the fsb @ max bios volts :(
Well I'm sure you will do some bad ass pi's soon!
Good luck.

[sierra_bound]

Thanks. :) Actually I have not tried maximum voltage yet. Personally I'm not interested in just a CPU-Z validation shot. I want to be able to run 32M. Of course, it may be that he has a better chip than me, which is fine. More power to him. Still, I'm not exactly disappointed with my E6600. :)

[NiCKE^]

Hehe you can't be disappointed with it :)
Hope my Asus will go far :)

[OMEGA3]

Sierra-san

Congrats!! under 13minutes.
Nice run, by air cooled.

:toast:

[gocchin]

Nice work Sierra, I hope I can do the same with my E6600! :)

[Anemone]

So we're talking either 8000 memory at low timings or 6400 very tight?

[sierra_bound]

So we're talking either 8000 memory at low timings or 6400 very tight?
6400 @ 3-4-3. With more voltage I canprobably run 3-3-3 at same speed.

[lopri]

Wonderful results there. One quick question: Is the ASUS bootable past 400FSB? (i.e. Not via Windows Clockgen) I'm asking this because my A8N32-SLI does up to 430HTT, but only by baby steps from 350HTT. (Like, 350-> 360-> 370->.. etc.)

For instance, does it boot without any quirk @400x9, from, say, 300x9 for one reboot? And when you power off the machine and turn it back on, does it boot @400x9 with no issue? I'd much appreciate it if you can share your experience. I've had some trouble with ASUS voards in the past because of their unstable voltage regulations.

[sierra_bound]

Thanks. Yes, you can boot up above 400FSB. The maximum seems to depend on the board and the BIOS. With 0078 BIOS, I was able to boot up at 445 with maximum BIOS voltages on everything except VCore.

One thing I forgot to mention. Don't use Clockgen. It doesn't work very well on this board. Use SetFSB instead. Link (http://www13.plala.or.jp/setfsb/download/beta/setfsbU15a3_P5WD2.zip). Even though the program says "P5WD2", it was recently updated to work with P5W DH.

[sierra_bound]

Nice work Sierra, I hope I can do the same with my E6600! :)
Thanks. I'm sure you will. ;)

Sierra-san

Congrats!! under 13minutes.
Nice run, by air cooled.

:toast:
OMEGA-san, thank you and thanks for dropping by. I've seen your test results with TeamGroup PC2-5300. Looks very good.

[lopri]

Big thanks for a quick reply. It answered my long-time (well, at least for a week :D ) question that hadn't been answered anywhere else. I truly appreciate it.

[bri1]

i dont know if its wrong for me to ask this but i havnt seen anyone ask this so ill go for it

whats your idle and load and whats safe?

[sierra_bound]

With VCore at 1.6v, AiBooster showed temps in the low 30's at idle and low to mid-40's under load. I think AiBooster readings are a little on the low side. Running dual Prime at 1.6v with air-cooling will cause temps to skyrocket. Very high 50's. My guess is that temps were actually in the 60's. I would advise people not to attempt dual Prime on air with that much voltage.

[Direwolf]

Is there not a way to put some type of probe on the cpu or the bottom of the heatsink to get direct temps? Perhaps its very hard or risky to do? Just curious

A lot of people are wondering about the temps with conroe, Im geting reports of very cool to :cussing: hot at idle with water and air.

[sierra_bound]

I don't have a thermal probe, so I can't do that test. With VCore below 1.55v and a decent HSF, you should be fine. But people who want to run dual Prime on air will find they're probably going to have to lower voltage and CPU speed a lot. But since this is the Xtreme Overclocking section, I'm not worried about voltage, as long as my CPU does not melt. :)

[bri1]

i also love to get benches and hi speeeds but i neeed to use my computer for stuff like gaming and cal so i need it to be safe and stable but i was also trying to figure out if its possible to get speeds near yours with it safe and stable

[sierra_bound]

Watercooling might help. I think it's going to be hard finding an air-cooled E6600 or E6700 that's dual Prime stable at 4GHz. Might have a better chance with an X6800.

I have a practical side too. :) My E6600 is mainly for testing. It may eventually end up in a 24/7 system. But for now, I'm just having fun testing the limits of the chip.

[sierra_bound]

And yes, you can get decent bandwidth on Conroe platform. :D

Sandra unbuffered

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/263/sandra4360jy.jpg

[alpha0ne]

I have been trying for the last day to get my E6600 to even post using the DFI Infinity board :mad:

I have an 830D that I have used to change settings (it works fine with this POS chip :rolleyes: ), I have tried all the ram settings from 400 upto 667, I have tried really loose timings with no luck, I have tried with just one stick of my G.Skill 6400 with no luck, tried upping Vcore, NDv etc etc and each time I do any change I then put the E6600 back in but each time its the same.....................nothing, no post, no bios, I have even changed/tried every bios with no luck

I have now swapped over CPU's 16 times and I am now convinced this Conroe is dead :stick: :(

[Waus-mod]

Sierra.. what is youre max fsb ~ 1.65 vmch

[sierra_bound]

Max FSB with air-cooling and Vmch at 1.65v is 450. As soon as I buy a new tip for my soldering iron, I will do the Vmch mod. Just too busy with other things right now.

[jbizzler]

How do you get FSB beyond 400? I thought the P5W DH locks it there.

[sierra_bound]

No, there is no lock. Many people have gone above 400FSB without mods. You generally need to increase MCH (memory controller hub) chipset voltage.

[sierra_bound]

Still on air. Board still unmodded. I think I will make 4100MHz. Wish it wasn't so hot in my area. Even with A/C on, ambient temp is still 23-24C.

http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/9268/454x99ov.jpg

[eva2000]

time to freeze the MCH hehe

[hot_fifty]

as always pretty results... Impressive

[sierra_bound]

Still on air, board still unmodded.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/4112.jpg

[Rol-Co]

Still on air, board still unmodded.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/4112.jpg

Nice going sierra.......put the board in front of the a/c system now? :D

mine maxed out @ 4204 mhz on air, however the board was modded now.
max fsb 1m stable 500fsb 1.90vmch :banana:

keep it @ air? or gonna try something else too? next is phase here.

[sierra_bound]

I may do Vmch mod. Just been lazy. The VR's are sitting right in front of me. :rolleyes:

Yes, I saw your results. Awesome job. :toast:

[Rol-Co]

pop on the mod...... :stick:

the system gonna be a lot more stable @ 1.74vmch and maxed out on 475-480.
The board is holding you up now, see if you can reach 11.9xx sec s-pi, i've tryed but can't becouse of the corsairs.

[sierra_bound]

E6600 rendering power at 4GHz

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/cinebench4000.jpg

4M

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/4M40051.jpg

[sierra_bound]

Dropped multiplier down to 7 and raised FSB. And remember this is with Conroe, not Allendale.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/465X7.jpg

[Rol-Co]

nice board sierra, try'd multi 8 too? the lower the multi the higher the fsb.
so when you getting 465 on multi 7 you can't reach that on nine, even with good cooling on the cpu
don't ask me why but notished that here too, i think chipset gonna be stressed more then.

[sierra_bound]

I think 8 & 9 multi's gave me same FSB results when I tested earlier. Will test again tonight when it gets cooler.

[sierra_bound]

I decided, screw the hot weather :D , and ran tests at 8x. Surprisingly maximum FSB is almost as good as 7x.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/464X8.jpg

[sierra_bound]

Dual-SP2004 stability with FSB over 450 (455X8). I know 30 minutes won't satisfy some people. But you can't please everyone. ;) Ignore the CPU speed in the SP2004 GUI. That's what I booted up at. I changed multiplier and FSB while in Windows. AiBooster reads correct FSB and CPU speeds.

Just my personal observation. The system feels rock solid, even with FSB at 450+. Of course, your mileage may vary.

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7906/sp2004455x8ve0.jpg

[Rol-Co]

running nice sierra

i think you got one of the best board's i've seen, with a mod this baby would fly
nice temps too for dual prime, 48 degrees @ your'e place is nice.

now pop on the mod and go for the 500+ :D

[sierra_bound]

Thanks Rol-Co. :) Sometimes luck has a way of changing. My first Conroe board was a Bad Axe. It did well until it mysteriously died. Then a friend sent me a P5W DH from Asia and it died due to pin damage in the socket. Not sure how that happened. At that point I was ready to renounce life and join a monastery. lol. Then I got this board along with the E6600 and life has been good. :D

[lupacchiotto]

hi sierra,
up to that frequency you succeed in holding the rams 1:1?
I have felt to say that this board doesn't climb very with ram in synchro..
it's the same in your experiens?
thank you and congrats for the nice result ;)

[Freez]

Thanks Rol-Co. :) Sometimes luck has a way of changing. My first Conroe board was a Bad Axe. It did well until it mysteriously died. Then a friend sent me a P5W DH from Asia and it died due to pin damage in the socket. Not sure how that happened. At that point I was ready to renounce life and join a monastery. lol. Then I got this board along with the E6600 and life has been good. :D

lol, these chips aren't even widely available and you've already got history with them.

[sierra_bound]

hi sierra,
up to that frequency you succeed in holding the rams 1:1?
I have felt to say that this board doesn't climb very with ram in synchro..
it's the same in your experiens?
thank you and congrats for the nice result ;)
Highest I've done 1:1 is 455. Highest at 4:3 is 465. Other boards like the DFI Infinity won't even do 400 unless you use 4:3. My board seems to be better than other P5W DH's. Someone had once told me I'd be lucky to do 430 @ 1:1 without Vmch mod.

[sierra_bound]

I decided to take Rol-Co's advice and loosen timings while running 4:3. Now up to 470 FSB.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/470X7.jpg

5-5-5 timings did not really help me. By adjusting secondary timings a little more, I might be able to go higher on FSB.

[Direwolf]

Do you think you could have a 24/7 rig at 4/4.1 with descent watercooling Sierra? I plan on having a similar rig :bows:

[sierra_bound]

4-4.1GHz is going to be very hard 24/7 with an E6600. 3.9GHz is possible though. You need both a good chip and a good board. I lucked out this time. I haven't even touched the NB yet. Improved cooling there might yield another 5-6MHz on FSB.

[theteamaqua]

whats the highest dual prime stable (or at least dual 32m stable) u can go??

[Direwolf]

Guess 3.8 or so will be the sweet spot for me unless I get lucky. Thanks for the quick reply!

BTW- Which boards allow you to turn off one core aka cooler managed to do such and got a hefty oc off it. Hopefully a bios update will allow such on your board.

[sierra_bound]

whats the highest dual prime stable (or at least dual 32m stable) u can go??
I've run dual-SP2004 at 3.85GHz. Seemed fine except temps were extremely high. I'm not too concerned about Prime because this is primarily a benching/fun rig, not a 24/7 system. Most of the people who start threads in the Xtreme Overclocking section do not run Prime. ;)

[youngpro]

sierra, is that 440+ fsb bootable? or ajustable only in windows?

[Rol-Co]

I decided to take Rol-Co's advice and loosen timings while running 4:3. Now up to 470 FSB.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/470X7.jpg

5-5-5 timings did not really help me. By adjusting secondary timings a little more, I might be able to go higher on FSB.


Nice to see its working sierra :) 470 fsb on a unmodded board is awesome
i think you got a killer board here :banana:

maybe its a spinning in my head , but i think when you build the fsb easely on the board its gonna be higher at the end.

my first board was in and in 5 min i had to know what max fsb was, look what it got me 400fb max

second one i build up with little steps and running s-pi/pifast all the time between.

maybe i'm wrong about this but it doesn't hurt if you do ......isn't it?

[sierra_bound]

Yes, I agree with you. Yonah & AOpen board were also like that. Gradually raising FSB often gave the best overclock. Sometimes being too greedy will lead to disappointment.

[Pjoeloe]

Dropped multiplier down to 7 and raised FSB. And remember this is with Conroe, not Allendale.

I thought the E6600 multiplier was locked but your results say`s that the multiplier is locked up ? :) ( so you can go lower than 9 but not highter .... ? )

[sierra_bound]

I have an ES chip, so I can use multipliers from 6 to 9. Retail Conroes (except the X6800) will have locked multipliers.

[Pjoeloe]

Ahhhh, well, 9 x 450 = 4050, that`s my goal, I don`t need others. 8 x 500 sounds great, but then again, that`s almost twice the normal speed and I don`t think it`s good for the mch and more important, I don`t like vmods ...

edit : afcourse you can phase change the chipset of the asus P5W DH deluxe :slobber:

credits goes to ojdr2001 !

http://www.ojdr2001.com/Imagens/asus490fsba.JPG

[hyperasus]

So nice to see these high clocks on air. Gives me much hope.

[Pjoeloe]

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Asus_177.html
" Note: In order for a Core 2 DUO (Conroe) processor to work with the Asus P5W DH Deluxe mainboard you may require to perform a BIOS update which will require an older processor or contacting Asus for a new BIOS chip. OcUK does not provide a BIOS flashing service and will not accept used product back unwanted as this board does support Conroe with Asus latest BIOS "

Somebody know if this is true ?

[sierra_bound]

Stepping 5 ES chips require 0502 BIOS or higher. I don't know about retail chips. My CPU would not boot with 401 BIOS. But I already had a Cedar Mill chip, so I used it to boot up and update BIOS.

I think a few people with earlier steppings were able to boot up with 0401. You can always ask Asus to send you a new BIOS chip that supports Conroe.

There should be a yellow sticker on the BIOS chip. It will indicate what BIOS the board was shipped with.

[OMEGA3]

Hi Sierra-san

I bought E6700ES Stepping5 on last week,for the verification.

It's not bad.
P5W DH
Vcore1.426V 3836.2MHz
Vcore1.500V 3955.6MHz
Can be run pi1M, by air cooling(Cooler is 鎌鉾Z).

But,can't be change the multiplier on BIOS Ver.0701 when E6700 Stepping5.
Also Intel Bad Axe...
Therefore now using the CrystalCPUID and MSR Editor.
The verification of the memory etc. is also troublesome. :D

[sierra_bound]

3955MHz with 1.5v is good. I'm crazy. I sometimes use 1.675v with air cooling. :D

[OMEGA3]

Awesome! 1.675V with air.
However, I am similar in LN2. :D

It doesn't expand in this cooler at all though I want also to raise.;)

[sierra_bound]

Omega-san, did you sell your X6800? I know you weren't happy with the results.

[OMEGA3]

Yes, it has already sold it off.

It is hesitant though X6800 of step6 has been reserved.

[sierra_bound]

Good luck with your E6700ES. :toast: I hope to have a new CPU to play with in a few days. ;)

[OMEGA3]

Good luck with your E6700ES. :toast: I hope to have a new CPU to play with in a few days. ;)

Many thanks,　sierra-san

Your chips(6600&6700) are very nice.
Waiting for your fine result.:toast:

[Dumo]

Yes, it has already sold it off.

It is hesitant though X6800 of step6 has been reserved.Seems like 6800 retail not too bad with the right cooling:) http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=108158

[OMEGA3]

Seems like 6800 retail not too bad with the right cooling:) http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=108158

Hi, Dumo

Many thanks!!

Yeah, I did read this thread, and it's not bad.
However, step6 with the report first was not good.
It worries. :D

[sierra_bound]

Off-topic :) I'm testing the P5B Deluxe now. Seems okay. Was able to boot up at the speed you see below. Haven't gotten around to testing the limits of the board yet. ;)

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/639/p5b435x9xg1.jpg

[theteamaqua]

damn P5W DH seem nice, i gotta send it to RMA ASAP

[Ghost]

nice score man!:D

:toast:

[theteamaqua]

BTW, my cpu cap is gone ... lol? am i screwed??

[sierra_bound]

The P5W DH is better for maximum CPU speed, but the P5B is good for memory overclocking.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/6072-3.jpg

[theteamaqua]

wow!!! 600mhz!!!

[Ghost]

wow!!! 600mhz!!!
very nice results at this latency, vmem?

[CapFTP]

really nice job sierra !!

[sierra_bound]

Thanks to all.:)


very nice results at this latency, vmem?
2.45v which is BIOS limit.

[sierra_bound]

Just an update. My P5W DH died awhile back.:( I now have a P5WDG2 WS Pro which I think is an even better board. Unlike the P5W DH, it will run 2:3 ratio very well, but not quite as good as the P5B Deluxe. The result below was done 1:1 and with air cooling.

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/8246/4103ev7.jpg

[over@locker886]

http://www.kepfeltoltes.hu/060821/4014_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg
droop is 0,05-0,006v :(

[sierra_bound]

Nice clocks.:) The voltage droop on the P5WDG2 WS Pro does not appear to be bad. The board also overvolts a bit.

[sevendustweb]

Any pictures of the actual fan setup?

[patrickadizzle]

Sierra Bound, I know you had the P5W DH a long time ago and you probably have forgotten but I was wondering what BIOS you used to get to 440+ FSB.


I have a similar setup and I cannot boot past 400 FSB, and it is pretty frustrating :).

I would like to just get my E6600 to 3.8, and I have them temp to do so.

If you feel this is outside of this threads discussion, let me know at the P5W DH Questions + Awnsers thread.

thanks :)

[Gautam]

Try 1305, it's been working great for me. Make sure you reapply the TIM on the NB HSF, pretty surprising how much one can gain from this.

[sierra_bound]

See first post.;) I was using 0078.

I had a particularly good board. It did 450+ FSB with stock multiplier and 470 with lower multiplier. No voltage mods. Unfortunately I killed the board after I switched to sub-zero cooling. I should have just stuck to air.

[patrickadizzle]

hmm that's weird.


I cant even get past 400 without it looping and looping on a 9x and then I have to clear the CMOS.


Im kinda stumped...

[sierra_bound]

Can you do 400+ with a lower multiplier? Maybe you need to increase NB voltage a little.

[gOJDO]

With an average air cooling(temp less than 43'C @ 100% stock speed CPU load), what is safe VCore limit for OC-ing an E6400?

[lewiscosworth]

OK heres what im running stock a 6 stepping core 2 duo e6600, I want to overclock this but do not what programme to use.


http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=untitledtx8.jpg

[lewiscosworth]

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/ho/WF25a/35123-35527-39847-39847-39847-12726884.html

Here the specs m7680 model

[adamsleath]

Hi Sierra-san

I bought E6700ES Stepping5 on last week,for the verification.

It's not bad.
P5W DH
Vcore1.426V 3836.2MHz
Vcore1.500V 3955.6MHz
Can be run pi1M, by air cooling(Cooler is 鎌鉾Z).

But,can't be change the multiplier on BIOS Ver.0701 when E6700 Stepping5.
Also Intel Bad Axe...
Therefore now using the CrystalCPUID and MSR Editor.
The verification of the memory etc. is also troublesome. :D

Great chip u have there...i just bought one of these; haven't got it yet - if it's anywhere near yours in performance i'd be ova the mooon.

thinking of getting a ninja cooler (or some other monstrous hunk of metal)...but i'll wait to see voltage / heat stuff under my lil xp120

[mat128]

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en/ho/WF25a/35123-35527-39847-39847-39847-12726884.html

Here the specs m7680 model
You can't overclock with an HP bios. You probably need a new board, if you need to know how to overclock, you probably shouldn't do it.