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alpha0ne
07-07-2006, 09:35 PM
149$ should be the price of the P5B. Maybe a bit more at start (under $170)
this site ask $225us for it :p:
Yes that store is very overpriced but in AU its nearly always a rippoff :mad:
I was very lucky and found a store with no price gouging, bought a DFI Infinity 975X/G from Tek-Corp (http://www.tekcorp.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=721&osCsid=996eb47a1a63d740af280ddf664bdfbe) for only $266AU :clap: :woot:
FLMJIGGY
07-08-2006, 12:29 AM
MSI... I dunno... but then again Coolaler did well with an MSI.
I think it's best to wait but it is so hard...
I would figure either DFI or ASUS... if ABIT finally has there head on straight they may be a top MB maker for Intel... otherwise it's in the air.
Metroid
07-08-2006, 09:42 AM
I went to the Hexus forums and talked with the editor about the impressive DFI Lanparty Intel 590 version. It was just a few questions.
Originally Posted by Metroid
Hello Hexus.
Hi Metroid,
Originally Posted by Metroid
Is there any possibility in making some tests on this board to see what is the maximum FSB?
Well it would be kinda rude not to get at least a little tweaky with a DFI mainboard...:D
Originally Posted by Metroid
The pictures were taken on Taiwan or here in UK?
If i'm not mistaken, we took these particular shots on a large conference table desk at DFI's headquarters. beside the conference table was a large 'white-board' upon which was interestingly scrawled: - HEXUS r0x0r...
Originally Posted by Metroid
The board is with you or was just pictures taken on DFI factory?Thanks.
It's here with us in the UK:D
cheers,
PD
ssnseawolf
07-09-2006, 12:06 AM
Gah, they really need some budget boards at $100 price point.
Any news about the Albatron PX975X?
I'm thinking of buying that one.
vapb400
07-09-2006, 10:20 AM
I went to the Hexus forums and talked with the editor about the impressive DFI Lanparty Intel 590 version. It was just a few questions.
Hi Metroid,
Well it would be kinda rude not to get at least a little tweaky with a DFI mainboard...:D
If i'm not mistaken, we took these particular shots on a large conference table desk at DFI's headquarters. beside the conference table was a large 'white-board' upon which was interestingly scrawled: - HEXUS r0x0r...
It's here with us in the UK:D
cheers,
PD
Thanks metroid! hopefully they will have some results for us when the conroe nda is up
havoxz
07-10-2006, 12:14 AM
i was reading over the forums but i can't seem to find an answer; is the dfi infinity 975x going to be a good overclocker motherboard? does it support ddr2-800 RAM?
xplanes
07-10-2006, 05:33 PM
Hello, first post here. I'm planning on building a new system by the end of this month and I want to build an E6600 based system. In reading the list I found this....
P5WD2-E Premium rev 1.3 (not 100% sure) - ATX - Available but not rev 1.03G, rev 1.03G should be available after 20 july
What about it is the OP not sure? That it is Conroe cappable? Approved? or that rev. 1.3 or 1.3G is the one that will work with Conroe?
I think I have my heart set on that board so I will be folloing it until the right one is available or I run out of time to wait for it. Not going to overclock, just like the features and stability.
Any way to know what DDR2 will work with that? I mean, can you assume certain RAM Modules that work with the early versions will work with the Conroe version? I'd like to start shopping for a good deal on DDR2 800. Everything else is purchased but the MOBO, CPU, and RAM
Thanks!
Wonkers
07-10-2006, 05:55 PM
http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=4775
The new lowest price for a Asus P5W DH Deluxe in Canada that I can find is $269.99 CND
Which seems pretty damn low if you ask me!
Kanten
07-10-2006, 06:19 PM
Still no word on a possible RD600 release date? I need to make a decision whether or not to grab a P5W DH while they're still available or keep waiting pretty soon.
THE JEW (RaVeN)
07-10-2006, 06:47 PM
Quick question with the ASRock boards:
The boards with an AGP slot--are they actually full speed AGP slots? Or are they something similar to the AGI Express slots? (PCIE 1X or 4X slot "married" to an AGP slot). I ask because people who have had ASRock boards with these "imitation" AGP slots report slow downs of 20-25%.
http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=4775
The new lowest price for a Asus P5W DH Deluxe in Canada that I can find is $269.99 CND
Which seems pretty damn low if you ask me!
And they also have C2D preorder (which I preordered last Friday)
the e6600 is $399 and I used a $40 credit with the point I accumulated there
So it come to $359CND :p:
Owen1978
07-11-2006, 05:55 AM
I just want the best overclocking board that doesnt support SLI or Xfire
i just want to use only 1 graphics card.
Im willing to wait till the end of sept for the right mobo
i want a Mobo which is overclockable and is upthere in terms of overclockabilty with top level asus, dfi mobos.
Nice pictures of most of the boards
http://event.adtecsys.com/repo2006/cptex_taipei/intel.html
havoxz
07-11-2006, 10:49 AM
I just want the best overclocking board that doesnt support SLI or Xfire
i just want to use only 1 graphics card.
Im willing to wait till the end of sept for the right mobo
i want a Mobo which is overclockable and is upthere in terms of overclockabilty with top level asus, dfi mobos.
Nice pictures of most of the boards
http://event.adtecsys.com/repo2006/cptex_taipei/intel.html
what kind of motherboard is this lol :banana:
pumero
07-11-2006, 12:52 PM
Quick question with the ASRock boards:
The boards with an AGP slot--are they actually full speed AGP slots? Or are they something similar to the AGI Express slots? (PCIE 1X or 4X slot "married" to an AGP slot). I ask because people who have had ASRock boards with these "imitation" AGP slots report slow downs of 20-25%.
yes, they are real agp 8x slots.
NCIX (Canada) is expecting Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6 this week
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=19308&vpn=GA-965P-DQ6&manufacture=Gigabyte
Very expensive....
Same for the DFI Infinity
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=19310&vpn=INFINITY%20975X/G&manufacture=DFI
Insane price for Infinity board...
cupholder2.0
07-11-2006, 09:13 PM
ouch, if DQ6 is about 250 USD and DS3 is 143. The DS4 will probably come in bettween 175-200 :(.
[TAG]Imp
07-11-2006, 09:34 PM
NCIX (Canada) is expecting Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6 this week
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=19308&vpn=GA-965P-DQ6&manufacture=Gigabyte
Very expensive....
Same for the DFI Infinity
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=19310&vpn=INFINITY%20975X/G&manufacture=DFI
Insane price for Infinity board...
Wha?!? more for a 965 than a DFI 975X???!
alpha0ne
07-12-2006, 02:33 AM
NCIX (Canada) is expecting Gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6 this week
Very expensive....
Same for the DFI Infinity
Insane price for Infinity board...
Thats just blatent price gouging, I only paid $266AU for my DFI Infinity 975 :fact:
havoxz
07-12-2006, 02:36 AM
Thats just blatent price gouging, I only paid $266AU for my DFI Infinity 975 :fact:
how does the dfi infinity overclock? isn't that the one supporting ddr2-633 ram? :\
alpha0ne
07-12-2006, 02:41 AM
how does the dfi infinity overclock? isn't that the one supporting ddr2-633 ram? :\
I have no idea ATM :(
I have been trying for the last day to get my E6600 to even post using the DFI Infinity board :mad:
I have an 830D that I have used to change settings (it works fine with this POS chip :rolleyes: ), I have tried all the ram settings from 400 upto 667, I have tried really loose timings with no luck, I have tried with just one stick of my G.Skill 6400 with no luck, tried upping Vcore, NDv etc etc and each time I do any change I then put the E6600 back in but each time its the same.....................nothing, no post, no bios, I have even changed/tried every bios with no luck
Can anyone help ??? :confused:
I have now swapped over CPU's 16 times and I am now convinced this Conroe is dead
you should start a new thread for your problem.
Charloz24
07-12-2006, 09:26 PM
@ NCIX:
ASUS P5B: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=19355&vpn=90-MBB4E5-G0UAYZ&manufacture=ASUS
(pre-order)
ASUS P5B deluxe:
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=19356&vpn=90-MBB4E1-G0AAY&manufacture=ASUS
(pre-order)
Gigabyte 965P-DQ6:
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=19308&vpn=GA-965P-DQ6&manufacture=Gigabyte
(available 2-5 days)
They are pricey :(
Verisimilitude
07-13-2006, 05:37 AM
Wow, that better be the exception. I'm not paying $180 for a vanilla 965 board. I'm assuming they are getting a 15-20% premium for the preorder, ~150ish sounds 10x more believable.
P5B Deluxe higher priced tha P5W DH... VERY funny...
Edit: Anyway, all C2D motherboard on NCIX are overpriced. the P5W DH is $344 while you can get it at $269 in other canadian store..
So I expect the P5B to be $159-$169 and the Deluxe $209-$219.
aldamon
07-13-2006, 09:51 AM
Gah, they really need some budget boards at $100 price point.
This one is looking a little nicer than the 775Dual-VSTA:
ASRock ConRoeXFire-eSATA2 $85.99
$7.70 Three Day Shipping (Not available in HI, AK and PR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813157096
Doesn't support DDR, but also doesn't have a VIA chipset. Good trade-off. Good price.
JamesAvery22
07-13-2006, 09:57 AM
I just want the best overclocking board that doesnt support SLI or Xfire
i just want to use only 1 graphics card.
Im willing to wait till the end of sept for the right mobo
i want a Mobo which is overclockable and is upthere in terms of overclockabilty with top level asus, dfi mobos.
Nice pictures of most of the boards
http://event.adtecsys.com/repo2006/cptex_taipei/intel.html
The page has a pic of a Albatron PX975X and it sure looks like a Core 2 Duo label on the 775 socket... Wasn't it up in the air whether or not the PX975X actually supports Conroe?
THE JEW (RaVeN)
07-13-2006, 01:25 PM
Am I blind or is there no VIA based chipset section?
ASRock 775DUAL-VSTA
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=18719&vpn=775Dual-VSTA&manufacture=ASRock&promoid=1051
If the AGP works at full speed (which, I think it does) this could have the potential to be the next ASRock 939Dual for the Conroe world.
NCIX staff tested it and say that it works fine with Conroe in the comments section.
Does the PCI-E slot run at X4? Cuz I was under the impression it was also full speed.
No cpu volt adjustment :( Bust out the soldering iron :)
EDIT:
Just found out the PCI-E runs at X4 :(
I wouldn't touch a Via board with a 100ft pole..
THE JEW (RaVeN)
07-13-2006, 01:33 PM
At under $100 and for those still using AGP based Quadro cards.....it's definitely something to consider.
Unless Uli comes up with something, of course :)
Verisimilitude
07-13-2006, 03:38 PM
ABIT AB9 PRO IS OUT (http://www.compumusic.com/p123450.htm)
Finally, lets hope the rest come out tomorrow!
jbizzler
07-13-2006, 05:39 PM
Edit: How'd I end up on this thread? I thought I was somewhere else.
cupholder2.0
07-13-2006, 06:11 PM
Edit: How'd I end up on this thread? I thought I was somewhere else.
spam ! :D
BottomsUp
07-13-2006, 10:14 PM
Can someone help me understand if i should chose the 965/975/or Nvidia chipset board for my conroe?
I'm not sure what the pros and cons are.
TIA
WiCKeD
07-13-2006, 10:20 PM
965 may end up being faster. There was a review... search. ;)
Board choice is more essential.
Can someone help me understand if i should chose the 965/975/or Nvidia chipset board for my conroe?
I'm not sure what the pros and cons are.
TIA
Not sure if anyone has done any tests but Nvidia chipsets suck for overclocking Intels according to past history.
heinrichs
07-14-2006, 01:47 AM
hmm there came a new bios for the P5WDG2-WS yesterday, and it says it supports new cpu's could it be that it will support conroe
copy from asus global.
P5WDG2-WS BIOS 0602
Support new CPUs. Please refer to our website at: http://support.asus.com.tw/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx
the support site is not yet updated with core 2, but what other new cpu's are there?
Kanten
07-14-2006, 02:13 AM
So, are the P5W DH's in their current form a viable platform to run a C2D on? Right now I'm not too concerned with the overclocking, just need something that works, plus I'm not really oriented on OC knowledge. As RD600 is still a ways out, I'm looking for something nice and reliable to keep things working.
Primoz78
07-14-2006, 02:26 AM
I think we have to make a poll which MOBO should be the best for C2D...available at the moment :rolleyes:
Regards,
Primoz
Pjoeloe
07-14-2006, 09:35 AM
The Intel DP965LT P965 Board is in stock @ one of the best e-shops in Germany :)
http://www.ebug-europe.com/bug/default.asp?PageNo=DEFAULT&DeepLink=PA10000D%2CHardware%2CMAINB%2DSOCK7751100 31242
103 euro :)
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/pix/dp965lt_lg.jpg
http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/products/desktop/bdb/dp965lt/feature/index.htm
Intel® Core™2 Duo ready, DDR2 800, PCI Express* x16, Intel® High Definition Audio, Ten Hi-Speed USB 2.0, Four 3.0Gb/s SATA ports, On-Board LAN 10/100/1000, 3 year warranty ...
The Intel DP965LT P965 Board is in stock @ one of the best e-shops in Germany :)
http://www.ebug-europe.com/bug/default.asp?PageNo=DEFAULT&DeepLink=PA10000D%2CHardware%2CMAINB%2DSOCK7751100 31242
103 euro :)
http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/pix/dp965lt_lg.jpg
http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/products/desktop/bdb/dp965lt/feature/index.htm
Intel® Core™2 Duo ready, DDR2 800, PCI Express* x16, Intel® High Definition Audio, Ten Hi-Speed USB 2.0, Four 3.0Gb/s SATA ports, On-Board LAN 10/100/1000, 3 year warranty ...
One of the best low-budget board ,if your not goint to via or sis.
But i get that this board sould be that good for OC.
I guess i'll be going with abit AB9
The page has a pic of a Albatron PX975X and it sure looks like a Core 2 Duo label on the 775 socket... Wasn't it up in the air whether or not the PX975X actually supports Conroe?
yeah you're right i seem to remember something like that too.
and i guess the end of the discussion was that it wouldn't support C2D. but the pic proves us wrong, so.. good news :toast:
So are we completly sure the Asus P5WD2 E Prem ver 1.02G will not work with the Conroe? I have a 6800XE arriving today and I'd hate to have to buy a new board too :mad:
yes it's sure the rev 1.02g will not work.
It known for over 2 months now.
RAMMAN
07-14-2006, 11:31 PM
whats the eta on this board? august?
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=5939
jkresh
07-14-2006, 11:57 PM
RAMMAN, last I saw the suggestion was August first, but I dont think anything has been officialy stated yet
EneergE
07-15-2006, 07:08 AM
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=348290
P5WD2-E Premium and they claim it is Core 2 Duo ready.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=107106
AndreYang just said there will be no rev 1.03g P5WD2-E.
So your link is probably a typo.
WiCKeD
07-15-2006, 12:46 PM
First microATX Conroe board available in the US:
ASRock 775i945GZ (http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813157095)
You heard it hear, second! :p: Totally mediocre. 4x PCI-E, 20-pin connector & Fsb adjustment only. But it's relatively cheap.
Wet Fart
07-16-2006, 02:49 AM
I see the P5WD2-E Premium rev 1.3 makes the list, so am I safe to assume the rev, 1.0 definitely does not support Conroe?
Meaker
07-16-2006, 02:50 AM
Cant you get the 775Twins in the US? Its got everything except CPU voltage control :slap:
Pjoeloe
07-16-2006, 07:48 AM
Gigabyte DS3 in stock @ http://www.alternate.nl/html/shop/productDetails.html?artno=GPEG35& , 149 euro :)
Abit AB9 ( 149 euro ) , AB9 Pro (159 euro ) and Abit AW8D ( 169 euro ) are in stock @ http://www.alternate.de/html/shop/productListing4C.html?cat1=016&cat2=235&cat3=000&cat1=16&cat2=238&cat3=0&group=manufacturerName&treeName=HARDWARE&Level1=Mainboards&Level2=Intel&Level3=Sockel+775&
review from the Abit AW8D here :
http://www.cpu3d.com/motherboards/abit_aw8d_i975x_motherboard.html
NiCKE^
07-16-2006, 07:51 AM
AW8D doesn't work with Conroe iirc?
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/details.html?artno=GPIR08&showTechData=true Also in stock :)
only 1 pci.. Abit screw up every board they make lately..
Chri$ch
07-16-2006, 08:02 AM
Abit AW8D has no conroe support, on you photo is the AW9D (i think it has conroe support)
tvdang7
07-16-2006, 08:03 AM
i want a board
AW8D doesn't work with Conroe iirc?
http://www.alternate.de/html/product/details.html?artno=GPIR08&showTechData=true Also in stock :)
Intel's new Conroe core processors (which will be called Core 2 Duo when released) are probably one of the most anticipated releases of the year. One question on everyones' mind is ... Does the AW8D support the Conroes? Well, unfortunately ... no. According to Abit, a new motherboard with a PWM refresh is required for these new Conroe pocessors. However, the good news is that it will support ALL current Intel processors ... upto the 965 Extreme Edition @ 3.6GHz (1066FSB).
ohhh =(
However, the good news is that it will support ALL current Intel processors ... upto the 965 Extreme Edition @ 3.6GHz (1066FSB).
It's like reading: the board will work with cpu that his designed for. they call that a good news ? :p:
NiCKE^
07-16-2006, 08:12 AM
only 1 pci.. Abit screw up every board they make lately..
Why use two when 965 doesn't officially support CF nor SLI?
Pjoeloe
07-16-2006, 08:16 AM
Abit AB9
http://www.abit.com.tw/common/windowprint.php?PICT_NAME=/upload/products/ab9_top_500.jpg
http://www2.abit.com.tw/page/uk/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=AB9&fMTYPE=LGA775
Abit AB9 Pro
http://www.abit.com.tw/common/windowprint.php?PICT_NAME=/upload/products/ab9-pro_top_500.jpg
http://www2.abit.com.tw/page/uk/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=AB9+Pro&fMTYPE=LGA775
Abit AW8D
http://www.abit.com.tw/common/windowprint.php?PICT_NAME=/upload/products/aw8d_top_800.jpg
http://www2.abit.com.tw/page/uk/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=AW8D&fMTYPE=LGA775
Why use two when 965 doesn't officially support CF nor SLI?
sound cards , tv tuner cards, 1 pci limits you a lot if you ask me, plus crossfire is a pci-e slot think you are confused
BottomsUp
07-16-2006, 08:38 AM
Abit AB9
http://www.abit.com.tw/common/windowprint.php?PICT_NAME=/upload/products/ab9_top_500.jpg
http://www2.abit.com.tw/page/uk/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=AB9&fMTYPE=LGA775
Abit AB9 Pro
http://www.abit.com.tw/common/windowprint.php?PICT_NAME=/upload/products/ab9-pro_top_500.jpg
http://www2.abit.com.tw/page/uk/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=AB9+Pro&fMTYPE=LGA775
Abit AW8D
http://www.abit.com.tw/common/windowprint.php?PICT_NAME=/upload/products/aw8d_top_800.jpg
http://www2.abit.com.tw/page/uk/motherboard/motherboard_detail.php?pMODEL_NAME=AW8D&fMTYPE=LGA775
How do we fine out what the max FSB is for these?
dandragonrage
07-16-2006, 08:58 AM
sound cards , tv tuner cards, 1 pci limits you a lot if you ask me, plus crossfire is a pci-e slot think you are confused
TV Tuner cards exist in PCI-E. Still waiting for PCI-E soundcards, though.
Wet Fart
07-16-2006, 05:49 PM
I see the P5WD2-E Premium rev 1.3 makes the list, so am I safe to assume the rev, 1.0 definitely does not support Conroe?
Could someone confirm this for me?
P5WD2-E Premium is it only rev1.3 or do the other versions support Conroe too?
WiCKeD
07-16-2006, 07:43 PM
Cant you get the 775Twins in the US? Its got everything except CPU voltage control :slap:No. About half of these that are marked "available" are not even on Froogle or a quick Yahoo! search. That one is for sure not in the the US.
You can get this one, though: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813157096
WesM63
07-17-2006, 12:57 AM
Has anyone tried any of the Asrock boards? I'm half tempted to pick one up just to see how it does, at $65 and $86 its worth a shot.
keiths
07-17-2006, 01:19 AM
Here's preliminary results of one of the poorer performing via based ones:
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=105113
He talks about trying DDR1 on the second page.
Skyline GT-R
07-17-2006, 03:40 AM
Only rev 1.03G will support Conroe. So all the other revisions of the P5WD2-E do not support Conroe.
Meaker
07-17-2006, 04:43 AM
No. About half of these that are marked "available" are not even on Froogle or a quick Yahoo! search. That one is for sure not in the the US.
You can get this one, though: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813157096
Even my small corner shop in edinburgh has one :stick: strange.
WiCKeD
07-17-2006, 10:03 AM
Here's preliminary results of one of the poorer performing via based ones:
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=105113
He talks about trying DDR1 on the second page.I'm fairly confident this Jetway one will work: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813153049
I saw Conroe working on the 890 Pro chipset in another thread. Price is right, it has decent OC controls and it supports DDR or DDR2, but the board is single channel.
Meaker
07-17-2006, 12:06 PM
P5LD2-VM SE
http://www.asus.com.tw/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=194&model=1251&modelmenu=1
Maybe a decent Matx board? :confused:
They dont list the non cut down version (non SE) as supporting core duo 2 :/
vapb400
07-17-2006, 12:14 PM
I'm fairly confident this Jetway one will work: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813153049
I saw Conroe working on the 890 Pro chipset in another thread. Price is right, it has decent OC controls and it supports DDR or DDR2, but the board is single channel.
that board would be a decent tie over board til RD600. Jetway's site doesn't say anything about it supporting Conroe though, do you have any furthur info that leads you to believe that. Besides for the fact that it is new and the chipset does support conroe.
Shift
07-17-2006, 12:30 PM
Ok I'm still sorta confused on which boards will support Conroe - how can I tell?
Can anyone tell me if this board will support Conroe? B/c I'm thinking of buying a Pd 805, OCing it, and then save up and buy a Conroe (or is this a good idea at all?).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128012
vapb400
07-17-2006, 12:42 PM
Ok I'm still sorta confused on which boards will support Conroe - how can I tell?
Can anyone tell me if this board will support Conroe? B/c I'm thinking of buying a Pd 805, OCing it, and then save up and buy a Conroe (or is this a good idea at all?).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813128012
All 965X boards will support conroe, so yes that board supports conroe.
Just check the Conroe motherboards thread, it is certainly a little confusing at the moment.
That would be a good idea, I am considering it myself, mainly because I don't trust asrock (who also offers cheap conroe boards). Hopefully Biostar will have a cheap tie over board by the time my conroe comes.
Shift
07-17-2006, 12:53 PM
All 965X boards will support conroe, so yes that board supports conroe.
Just check the Conroe motherboards thread, it is certainly a little confusing at the moment.
That would be a good idea, I am considering it myself, mainly because I don't trust asrock (who also offers cheap conroe boards). Hopefully Biostar will have a cheap tie over board by the time my conroe comes.
Thanks for answering my question. Now I'm actually re-thinking what I want. Since I've had crappy computers throughout my life (my current one in my sig is alright), I'm used to staying with them. I'm thinking of building a decent system based on the PD805 and this mobo, (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131578) and then I'm thinking of probably just adding a cheap 7600GT for the graphics power and waiting it out until quad-processors come out. By then I'll have enough money for more upgrades. I guess that is what I will do.
Meaker
07-17-2006, 12:57 PM
No biters on the Matx board?
WiCKeD
07-17-2006, 03:43 PM
that board would be a decent tie over board til RD600. Jetway's site doesn't say anything about it supporting Conroe though, do you have any furthur info that leads you to believe that. Besides for the fact that it is new and the chipset does support conroe.Nope, just speculation. It keeps talking about the merits of 775 and says something along the lines of "support for future processor technologies" all over their site and manual. Could be nothing or could also be marketese to get around the NDA. ;)
Here is the where I pulled the chipset supports Conroe:
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=2911
The fact that other boards are turning up to support Conroe, doesn't hurt. I would have jumped on this board if the PCI-E x1 slot was in a different place.
P5LD2-VM SE
http://www.asus.com.tw/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=194&model=1251&modelmenu=1
Maybe a decent Matx board? :confused:
They dont list the non cut down version (non SE) as supporting core duo 2 :/I read the non-SE was capped at like 240fsb, because ASUS couldn't get the PCI-E lock working! Come on! In this day and age? The non-SE was the closest I came to finding a potential Conroe ready board in stock...
The only difference is probably the bios. ...but now that CostPlus cancelled my order, I may as well wait until release.
_Eduard_
07-17-2006, 04:24 PM
Can someone explain me why getting 500mhz+ fsb is such a problem for intel??
Meaker
07-17-2006, 05:12 PM
Well this must be able to have the FSB at 266 ofc the PCI express would clock over to default again most likely anyway....
Shift
07-17-2006, 05:36 PM
Another question,
Will this board support Conroe, I'm thinking of getting it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813127235
Can someone explain me why getting 500mhz+ fsb is such a problem for intel??
because they are at 266Mhz stock. You ask about a 100% overclock.
Don't forget, intel is Quad pumped. So 500Mhz fsb = 2ghz fsb !
WiCKeD
07-17-2006, 06:19 PM
because they are at 266Mhz stock. You ask about a 100% overclock.
Don't forget, intel is Quad pumped. So 500Mhz fsb = 2ghz fsb !...or something... So what does an on-die memory controller equal? ;)
I can't remember ever seeing a stock AMD board do 500MHz. Back to reality, please.
Latoron, AW9D is going to be the replacement for that board, so I highly doubt it. That Gigabyte board you suggested earlier looks to be a bargain "budget" board. Do a search on the forum, some guy was doing over 400fsb on it. I just nabbed the last one for my parents last night! :toast: Which is probably why it's OOS... :D Lotsa other places to grab it though - here's one: http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=MB-965PDS3&c=fr&pid=be81f31eecd47a775f89f5968d292d017eca11d6846ddd b0624eb73afc55fe77
[G.N.U.]Fragman
07-17-2006, 06:32 PM
how about a short conclusion:
Which one to choose and why......if you dont want to wait to long for a board to conroe E6600
DFI 975X/G
P5W DH Deluxe
Gigabyte p965 DS3
what is the best for OC for the ordinary oc guy....nothing ekstreme just air or perhaps watercooling and WHY do you consider it the best..
Donnie27
07-17-2006, 08:16 PM
...or something... So what does an on-die memory controller equal? ;)
I can't remember ever seeing a stock AMD board do 500MHz. Back to reality, please.
Latoron, AW9D is going to be the replacement for that board, so I highly doubt it. That Gigabyte board you suggested earlier looks to be a bargain "budget" board. Do a search on the forum, some guy was doing over 400fsb on it. I just nabbed the last one for my parents last night! :toast: Which is probably why it's OOS... :D Lotsa other places to grab it though - here's one: http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?p=MB-965PDS3&c=fr&pid=be81f31eecd47a775f89f5968d292d017eca11d6846ddd b0624eb73afc55fe77
Sure you did, you just missed it. When the HT link is 5 that's 5 X 200 X 2 = 2GHz just 4 X 200 X 2 = 1600:)
Most of the Clock Gens weren't made for 500 X 4 operation. But at least Intel's north bridge controller can count odd numbers LOL!
cupholder2.0
07-17-2006, 09:59 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813127004
AB9 PRO
Nathanael
07-18-2006, 04:28 AM
Another question,
Will this board support Conroe, I'm thinking of getting it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813127235
It won't.
Chri$ch
07-18-2006, 06:47 AM
give it any Conroe ready mobo which support ECC memory?
Thanks
Chris
Metroid
07-18-2006, 08:47 AM
There is a interesting reading about this
Here (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3374)
_Eduard_
07-18-2006, 08:56 AM
because they are at 266Mhz stock. You ask about a 100% overclock.
Don't forget, intel is Quad pumped. So 500Mhz fsb = 2ghz fsb !
AMD boards can do a 100% OC on FSB easily... :slapass:
Verisimilitude
07-18-2006, 08:59 AM
AMD boards can do a 100% OC on FSB easily... :slapass:
lol, Most s939 boards I've seen bug out at 275-290 range... thats not even close to 400 which is a 100%OC on the FSB...
EDIT: DFI of course is a different story...
[G.N.U.]Fragman
07-18-2006, 09:23 AM
quad or dual pumped...forget those terms...internal FSB only thing that count..even though amds dont really have a FSB.....its just a a number a calculator sets....and the only board doing 400 FSB i have seen to s939 was the asrock dualsata2.
charlie
07-18-2006, 02:51 PM
The Asrock 775Dual-Vista is $59 and claims Conroe support... might make a good office board with an e6300.
[G.N.U.]Fragman
07-18-2006, 05:13 PM
Asrock made a good one for s939 ...but havent made very good boards for intel in its history....any test on oc potential for it ?
FLMJIGGY
07-18-2006, 08:24 PM
I wasnt able to get a good OC on it... Enough OC options on it but I coudln't get too far. I also didn't have a lot of time to really play around with it. Also 2 new bios' came out so that could've helped
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/4118/img0046ec3.th.jpg (http://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0046ec3.jpg)
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/8828/img0048ky1.th.jpg (http://img61.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0048ky1.jpg)
Kanten
07-19-2006, 10:07 AM
So, is the P5W DH the winner so far as far as early adoption goes? I'm trying to pick out a board with Crossfire support. But from reading the posts about it, I've seen lots of required actions with modding the board and pulling chips out to flash them in other boards.:eek:
With overclocking options mentally set aside at the moment, is the board actually capable of running things without having to do something potentially stupid, or is waiting on something better the best option?
Primoz78
07-19-2006, 10:24 AM
MY E6600 will come within two weeks and the P5W DH is still on the top of my list for now...
Regards,
Primoz
dandragonrage
07-19-2006, 10:42 AM
AMD boards can do a 100% OC on FSB easily... :slapass:
AMD is using integrated memory controllers. You'll want to set the HTT multiplier to get 1GHz or less HTT on AMD... Apples to oranges here. :slap:
Pjoeloe
07-19-2006, 11:27 AM
Conroe Buying Guide: Feeding the Monster : review with 8 motherboards
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2797&p=1 :D
[G.N.U.]Fragman
07-19-2006, 06:11 PM
pretty ok review...but anandtech isnt very good at oc....but at least they are open about it.
Gun_Strife
07-19-2006, 06:50 PM
im looking for crossfire also and from what ive seen the p5w dh looks to be the best atm
dogsx2
07-19-2006, 07:39 PM
Update list on first page? :D
xplanes
07-19-2006, 07:41 PM
Great to read the review. Thanks for posting.
I'm down to a couple board choices. The review said the ASUS P5W DH DELUXE was their choice though they didn't have the P5WD2-E Premium to test. I don't need most of the Deluxe's features but I like the driverless RAID. Any idea how these two boards will compare besides the obvious feature differences like the remote and wi-fi?
Mikesnav
07-19-2006, 08:24 PM
So many were expected in June :/
FLMJIGGY
07-19-2006, 08:58 PM
ABIT has both ab9 available... here some problems though
n00b 0f l337
07-19-2006, 09:00 PM
Is there any plans to refresh the p5wd2-e premium?
[G.N.U.]Fragman
07-19-2006, 09:26 PM
ATI is a real joker this time nobody really knows anything, but many suspects a lot.....too bad they have been this slow. getting some tested through and compared could have told us which board to chose...now i think i will wait until august/september until i know if they are good or bad...and available.
thunderstruck!
07-20-2006, 06:51 PM
It's not Conroe that we're waiting for anymore (Comes out Monday) but a good overclocking board that will consistently do 450FSB. There are so few boards out now and they all are very expensive and cannot reach high FSBs. I don't want to pluck down $275 on the P5W when 2 weeks later a superior overclocking board will be out for $75 cheaper. Looks like we'll have Conroes before good motherboards.:(
Artmic
07-20-2006, 08:10 PM
I'm really getting tired of the SLI/CF crap, they should both agree on a dual GPU slot standard, so that all motherboards/chipsets can accomodate both... bunch of freaks IMO. they just polute and make the entire build process more complicated than it should be.
ocZZZ
07-20-2006, 08:13 PM
DS3 + e6400 @ 3.8ghz? :stick: :stick: :stick: :stick:
It's not Conroe that we're waiting for anymore (Comes out Monday) but a good overclocking board that will consistently do 450FSB. There are so few boards out now and they all are very expensive and cannot reach high FSBs. I don't want to pluck down $275 on the P5W when 2 weeks later a superior overclocking board will be out for $75 cheaper. Looks like we'll have Conroes before good motherboards.:(
Pjoeloe
07-20-2006, 08:14 PM
I think you can say that if you want a high fsb (+/- 500 mhz ) on a conroe bord, you need to get 1.85 to 1.9 Volt on the northbridge / MCH. :) , every 0.05V above the standard 1.65 V is a 7 / 8 mhz gain , see also http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2duo-e6300_8.html and http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2797&p=3
" overclocking was outstanding, but we suspect that higher voltage adjustments on the MCH would allow even higher overclocks. The ASUS stops at 1.65V, while the Intel BadAxe goes on to 1.725V. We would welcome ASUS raising the top voltage on the MCH. There are reports that modding the ASUS to reach 1.9V MCH allows FSB overclocks to almost 500 instead of the current limit of around 440 to 450 FSB "
"But the North Bridge chip may get really hot, and even reach dangerous levels if the cooling solution is not efficient enough"
The ASUS P5W DH Deluxe max V on the northbridge is 1.65 Volt. we need more. I think every board, even the cheap msi bastards can do 450 with enough juice in the hood :)
nice article : http://www.overclockers.com/tips00999/
Skyline GT-R
07-21-2006, 03:55 AM
No guys, sorry that my list isn't updated at all the last few days but I really don't have any time to do it. And I'm leaving tomorrow to italy ^^ I'll be back on the 1st of August. Then I'll update my list ASAP!
Alright hurry up and update it when you're back! I'm counting on ya mate!
-Jo.
p.s. hjave fun in italy, beautiful country =]
spiderdk
07-21-2006, 09:57 AM
anyone planing to get that cheaper AsRock motherboards to see how far it can go with a E6300 ?
-i got a 20pin power supply, a Geforce 6800 AGP card and 2x512mb DDR memory..
To overclock these Conroe and Allendale, I can use a low memory and set a divisor on it?
[G.N.U.]Fragman
07-21-2006, 06:25 PM
the few tests on it says it wont do much at all....its a very fair ordinary board...but no abilities to oc
Pjoeloe
07-22-2006, 07:57 PM
interesting news : maybe old, maybe new : http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2006/07/18/core_2_duo_memory_timings/1.html
Anemone
07-23-2006, 08:32 AM
Agreed, CF and SLI should work on all 3 vendors top end boards and be done with it.
burningrave101
07-23-2006, 09:05 AM
How come nobody has been trying any of the other 975X boards that have been updated to support Core 2?
Example:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813127235
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813186097
hmmm. a bit awkward, though the foxconn looks to be a good board.
Pjoeloe
07-23-2006, 05:42 PM
How come nobody has been trying any of the other 975X boards that have been updated to support Core 2?
Example:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813127235
a new motherboard with a PWM refresh is required for the conroe cpu, this board will not work with conroe :rolleyes:
FLMJIGGY
07-23-2006, 11:47 PM
???
CPU Socket Type
Socket T (LGA 775)
CPU Type
Intel Core2 Extreme/Core2 Duo/Pentium EE/Pentium D
FSB
1066/800MHz
charlie
07-24-2006, 12:43 AM
another newegg screw-up perhaps...
NinjaZX6R
07-24-2006, 12:49 AM
another newegg screw-up perhaps...
Yep, that's what I thought.
That is really going to screw someone over. Abit has said repeatedly that this board will NOT work with Conroe.
-Collin-
So, what do you guys think now that AMD as officially bought ATi? Will there actually be an Intel based RD600 chipset from ATi? Damnation. This is starting to look really ugly now. :(
Mykou
07-24-2006, 01:42 PM
It 's in french but to say that RD600 is dead .. :(
http://www.tt-hardware.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=9495
thunderstruck!
07-24-2006, 01:45 PM
It 's in french but to say that RD600 is dead .. :(
http://www.tt-hardware.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=9495
For the lazy ones http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tt-hardware.com%2Fmodules.php%3Fname%3DNews%26file%3D article%26sid%3D9495&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools.
Torphoto
07-24-2006, 01:50 PM
With AMD buying ati, you think they'll shelve RD600? this isn't good as our choices in boards are limited to intel and nvidia.
For the lazy ones http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tt-hardware.com%2Fmodules.php%3Fname%3DNews%26file%3D article%26sid%3D9495&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools.
For the even lazier...
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=33225
RAGING DRAGON
07-24-2006, 02:14 PM
For the even lazier...
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=33225
Wow that is a really lazy article.
Pjoeloe
07-24-2006, 02:26 PM
new review Abit ab9-pro : http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2799
" Abit has informed us they are near a 400 FSB in their internal testing and expect to exceed this level shortly with targets set to reaching 450+ FSB speeds. When we installed our X6800 and started testing for maximum FSB overclocking we were treated with a 9x369 result that indicates our board is at is limits currently. Hopefully the next BIOS will reward us with higher overclocks, though we might simply discover that the FSB ceiling on our particular board is about 370 "
new review gigabyte dq6 : http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=6233 :)
Seems to me that the asus P5W DH Deluxe and gigabyte ds3 still are the master in fsb :rolleyes:
Torkain
07-24-2006, 04:32 PM
Yep, that's what I thought.
That is really going to screw someone over. Abit has said repeatedly that this board will NOT work with Conroe.
-Collin-
This one didn't screw me over, but another one did. They changed their BadAxe boards to show that they supported Core2Duo also... I just got mine, a 302 version.
xplanes
07-24-2006, 10:11 PM
Is there any way to know before buying at newegg? Would a salesperson on the phone know what version number they have in the latest shipment? I'm waiting for the P5WD2-E Premium which they just changed over the weekend to say it has Core 2 Duo support. It's out of stock now and the OP says the 1.03G revision boards should be out post July 20.
Torkain
07-25-2006, 04:27 AM
As far as I know, there isn't. newegg's site states they cannot check the boxes. Shortly after I made my BadAxe order someone posted a review stating they were still sending out the 302s so I emailed them to ask regardless of what their site said. I got a reply almost immediately stating they couldn't check the version numbers as they had no access to where the boxes were.
I asked them how they could tell if their motherboards were Core 2 Duo supported to update their website without being able to see the boxes, they didn't answer that question. =p Or the fact that they had other non-Core 2 Duo boards listed as supporting the CPU.
At least they are taking the mobo back for a full refund.
havoxz
07-25-2006, 06:19 AM
hey guys; anyone got this or any comments on how this overclocks:
MSI 975X Platinum PowerUp Edition Motherboard
apparently there was a thread with it and coolaler getting 433FSB on an unmodded mobo?
Torkain
07-25-2006, 06:47 AM
Just do a search on "msi 975x platinum" and you'll find 4 or 5 threads started by Coolaler using this board with Conroe and Kentsfield. From what I've seen, this board is what I want, I just can't seem to find any definitive answers on when it will be available. (only places I see taking preorders for it are ALL in Australia, one listed the 28th as an ETA)
NapalmV5
07-25-2006, 09:01 AM
any other mobo out there other than the dfi 590 and bad axe with 3 decent pci-e slots?
[G.N.U.]Fragman
07-25-2006, 10:55 AM
i wouldnt worry about the ati/amd situation right now...or in near future....think of it this way: every board that chooses ati instead of intel or nvidia chipset is a coin in the sack for amd/ati regardless that ppl buy an intel cpu....so they will still try to make the best for intel cpus....perhaps even harder now...in the future intel will most likely try to make obstructions for it, but its too late for the conroe now.
Pjoeloe
07-25-2006, 02:23 PM
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49617&stc=1&d=1153832328
<<<< 7 AUGUST E6600 :confused: ??? >>>
I don`t get this . Hopefully this is only Micro Center
:(
irenic
07-25-2006, 02:34 PM
how come E6300 comes later than c2d extreme...
how come E6300 comes later than c2d extreme...
Probably because Dell, HP, Compaq, Gateway, etc. :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: ed about not getting enough C2Ds even though they know they cant sell that many C2Ds.
GA-8IBGNBX-RH -G965 - pico BTX - Not available
Although several sites says it s a pico BTX (max 1 slot), it's actually nano BTX (max 2 slots (http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2006/1847/gigabyte_ga-8ibgnbx-rh.jpg)) according to formfactors.org (http://www.formfactors.org/developer/specs/BTX_Specification%20v1.0b.pdf) (page 12).
...not sure that anyone here at XS cares.....;)
boomheadshot45
07-25-2006, 04:51 PM
Sorry, it kinda seems like the right thread, sorry if i'm wrong but should i go with the 975x or the P5W? If i got the name wrong then i'm sorry, i sometimes get confused with all of the motherboard names.
jkresh
07-25-2006, 05:21 PM
p5w dh if you want to overclock (the badaxe is good but requires mods)
burningrave101
07-25-2006, 07:25 PM
Sorry, it kinda seems like the right thread, sorry if i'm wrong but should i go with the 975x or the P5W? If i got the name wrong then i'm sorry, i sometimes get confused with all of the motherboard names.
975X is the chipset and P5W DH is the motherboard model. If you want a 975X chipset board then the P5W DH is about your best option for the moment.
ATi to continue making Intel chipsets (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3494)
WiCKeD
07-25-2006, 07:48 PM
^ Nice!
I dug up a ton of new CoreDuo2 boards from Biostar:
945G Micro 775SE - mATX
I945G-M7 - mATX
945GZ Micro 775 - mATX
945P-A7A(8.0) - ATX
TForce P965 Deluxe - ATX (probably same as in the OP)
Donnie27
07-25-2006, 07:55 PM
ATi to continue making Intel chipsets (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3494)
I got a feeling AMD will put a stop to this.
Man, has anyone heard about the release of any 965G matx boards? I seriously would love to build a SFF based on conroe, but I can't wait much longer, my current PC is a POS.
How would 945G performance be with Conroe, reasonable? I'm debating whether to:
1. Screw it, buy Antec Solo and DS3 and forget SFF
2. Buy a 945G MB in a week or two for cheap, and buy SFF case and build now. Then buy a "real" motherboard, possibly RD600 or 965G in a month or two.
Pjoeloe
07-26-2006, 02:37 PM
Asus P5W DH Deluxe doing 500 mhz fsb, seems a "real" board to me :p: ( not so short :D )
[G.N.U.]Fragman
07-26-2006, 04:36 PM
I got a feeling AMD will put a stop to this.
WHY...that would be directly stupid for amd....now they can make a little money even on intels cpu sales...they just have to be among the best.....
Pjoeloe
07-27-2006, 07:35 AM
New review of the gigabyte dq-6, they reach 415 mhz fsb :)
http://neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/ga965p_dq6
"" One thing that didn't work out so well for this board is the included metal backplate, or the "Crazy Cool". Honestly, while I initially thought the idea for the "Crazy Cool" was great, I ended up being very frustrated by it. I spent a bit of time trying to gently remove it, and came to the conclusion that it is not really meant to be removed - which is very dissapointing on such an excellent overclockers board as it prevented me from using high end air coolers such as the Noctua NH-U 12 and the ThermalRight Ultra 120 "
edit : nice new article on anandtech about overclocking the e6300 and e6400
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2802
[G.N.U.]Fragman
07-27-2006, 03:48 PM
http://www.ocworkbench.com/2006/ati/rd600/g1.htm
not much actually but seems ati chipset has same problems with high fsb as 975X
Richard Dower
07-27-2006, 04:44 PM
New review of the gigabyte dq-6, they reach 415 mhz fsb :)
http://neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/ga965p_dq6
"" One thing that didn't work out so well for this board is the included metal backplate, or the "Crazy Cool". Honestly, while I initially thought the idea for the "Crazy Cool" was great, I ended up being very frustrated by it. I spent a bit of time trying to gently remove it, and came to the conclusion that it is not really meant to be removed - which is very dissapointing on such an excellent overclockers board as it prevented me from using high end air coolers such as the Noctua NH-U 12 and the ThermalRight Ultra 120 "
edit : nice new article on anandtech about overclocking the e6300 and e6400
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2802
I told people the crazy cool does not just "come off"!!!!...there is a spungy thermal pad that holds the crazy cool to the motherboard. It dosen't just come off without ripping the thermal pad apart or leaving residue behind...and it could void the warranty!
I wanted to use an Ultra-120 myself, but decided to get an Ultra-90. :(
Donnie27
07-27-2006, 07:27 PM
Fragman']WHY...that would be directly stupid for amd....now they can make a little money even on intels cpu sales...they just have to be among the best.....
I didn't mean that this would happen over night.
orion23
07-27-2006, 07:33 PM
I told people the crazy cool does not just "come off"!!!!...there is a spungy thermal pad that holds the crazy cool to the motherboard. It dosen't just come off without ripping the thermal pad apart or leaving residue behind...and it could void the warranty!
I wanted to use an Ultra-120 myself, but decided to get an Ultra-90. :(
I removed mine and it wasn't that hard. The thermal pad didn't bread either. (maybe I was lucky)
Push 2 small white clips in
Pull on the crazy cool plate
Mount new back plate!
[G.N.U.]Fragman
07-27-2006, 08:37 PM
I didn't mean that this would happen over night.
i am aware of that, but just the idea..even in long term is stupid....ppl decide for a cpu..and THEN they find a board that works good with it afterwards...so if amd/ati can make ppl buy their chipset and not intels, intel will make less money...that simple.
I have to say it really pissed me off that Intel is shipping the CPUs with so low locked multipliers.
The combination of the increased base FSB (compared to socket 939) and overclockability of the CPU to much higher levels you are in constant combat with your stupid board.
AMDfreak
07-28-2006, 07:40 AM
Fragman']http://www.ocworkbench.com/2006/ati/rd600/g1.htm
not much actually but seems ati chipset has same problems with high fsb as 975X
It's really too early to tell. That board is an early reference design on only a 4-layer PCB. Let's all take a breath and see what DFI can do with it on a 6-layer PCB and Oscar Wu on the job. :idea:
burningrave101
07-28-2006, 10:26 AM
Fragman']i am aware of that, but just the idea..even in long term is stupid....ppl decide for a cpu..and THEN they find a board that works good with it afterwards...so if amd/ati can make ppl buy their chipset and not intels, intel will make less money...that simple.
Do you really think Intel is going to allow AMD/ATI to steal away profits from them in the chipset market? The enthusiest high-end realm is only a very small percentage of sales but even then if the AMD/ATI merger goes through at the end of the year Intel will cut ATI off from chipsets for Intel processors after the RD600. Intel could squash ither one of them if they really wanted to but then would face a lot of lawsuits and investigations on the matter in court. I think there is a decent chance Intel will step up and outbid AMD before the end of the year because Intel could use ATI's chipsets and Crossfire. It will be interested to see what takes place after the first of the year.
Donnie27
07-28-2006, 11:00 AM
Fragman']i am aware of that, but just the idea..even in long term is stupid....ppl decide for a cpu..and THEN they find a board that works good with it afterwards...so if amd/ati can make ppl buy their chipset and not intels, intel will make less money...that simple.
Intel has never depended on ATI to make money=P Intel has NEVER depended on ATI in this market for Chipsets. AMD/ATI the combind company will still make more money from AMD/ATI processors sold than from ATI/Intel chipsets=P
AMD didn't merge with ATI to help promote sales of ATI's Intel Edition Chipsets, now that's the only thing stupid here. Each ATI/Intel chipset sold equals One AMD Processor and One ATI AMD edition not sold. Now which do you think they'll make more money from?:cool:
You're talking about this tiny market as if it really meant something. AMD will have their asses well spanked for the next 9 months to a year. All ATI can do is make this worse. RD600 is just one more reason NOT to buy AMD processors and at best its about 100 million for ATI. Dude AMD is small but even for them that's Chump Change. Even ATI can't stop the Booty Kicking AMD will be getting until they come up with something better=P
See Dream Machine #11 2006 at MaximumPC for whats about to happen? :woot:
Donnie27
07-28-2006, 11:02 AM
Do you really think Intel is going to allow AMD/ATI to steal away profits from them in the chipset market? The enthusiest high-end realm is only a very small percentage of sales but even then if the AMD/ATI merger goes through at the end of the year Intel will cut ATI off from chipsets for Intel processors after the RD600. Intel could squash ither one of them if they really wanted to but then would face a lot of lawsuits and investigations on the matter in court. I think there is a decent chance Intel will step up and outbid AMD before the end of the year because Intel could use ATI's chipsets and Crossfire. It will be interested to see what takes place after the first of the year.
I'd bet not only him, but many others.
keiths
07-28-2006, 07:00 PM
As I expected, AMD will start fabing ATI chips as soon as possible. They have to make use of all their fab space since they don't have a competative cpu design to manufactor that would be sellable in such quantity. IE Keep producing as much, just a different wiggit; with the idea of hopefully holding up the same profit margin. It's a tactical admission they expect to lose on the cpu end.
[G.N.U.]Fragman
07-28-2006, 07:19 PM
Do you really think Intel is going to allow AMD/ATI to steal away profits from them in the chipset market? The enthusiest high-end realm is only a very small percentage of sales but even then if the AMD/ATI merger goes through at the end of the year Intel will cut ATI off from chipsets for Intel processors after the RD600. Intel could squash ither one of them if they really wanted to but then would face a lot of lawsuits and investigations on the matter in court. I think there is a decent chance Intel will step up and outbid AMD before the end of the year because Intel could use ATI's chipsets and Crossfire. It will be interested to see what takes place after the first of the year.
youre getting out of the discussion there pal....we are not discussing intels response....
AMDfreak...that just makes it more ompressive...i expect a lot from that board from dfi.....and it seems already now form that little test on the chipset, that there can be a good chance they deliver....until then i will have to do with a asus p5w dh for my e6600 sl9S8
Absolute_0
07-28-2006, 07:37 PM
Haven't read much of this thread. Anyway i'll be using a 6700 on a single stage so i'll want up to around 430x10 bootable. Am i right in saying that the P5WDH and BadAxe304 are my only choices?
[G.N.U.]Fragman
07-28-2006, 08:34 PM
yes..but you need a really lucky cpu too...the new steppings are not good...even great cooling dont make much of a difference....
charlie
07-28-2006, 08:38 PM
I have to say it really pissed me off that Intel is shipping the CPUs with so low locked multipliers.
The combination of the increased base FSB (compared to socket 939) and overclockability of the CPU to much higher levels you are in constant combat with your stupid board.
no... that's not true.
The good boards are running Allendale up to 500fsb stable. Even with a e6300 that's a shot at 3.5gHz.... how could that be bad from the cheapest conroe?
The e6600 is mid priced at $350 and has a 9 multi. Even a decent board will get you near 4ghz... what more did you want?
keiths
07-28-2006, 08:41 PM
Simple Charlie, regular reasonable priced boards, not their "trying to set a new high price trend to see if it will stick" $200+ boards.
What we need for that to happen is for all the idiots NOT to buy boards at those prices, waiting until they become even remotely reasonable.
Fred_Pohl
07-28-2006, 08:48 PM
Simple Charlie, regular reasonable priced boards, not their "trying to set a new high price trend to see if it will stick" $200+ boards.
What we need for that to happen is for all the idiots NOT to buy boards at those prices, waiting until they become even remotely reasonable.
What's so bad about the ~$150 i965 boards from Gigabyte, Abit, Asus and Intel or the $50-80 boards from ASRock?
Absolute_0
07-28-2006, 09:25 PM
The problem with the Gigabyte DS3 is that it seems to achieve less and less FSB as you increase the Multi. Sure it'll do 500 the 7x multi of an Allendale, but i don't think i've seen over 400 on a 6600, and thus i have no reason to think it would go over 400 with a 6700. I need well over 400 fully stable from bootup with a 9 or 10x multi, the 150$ "budget" Conroe board -- the DS3 -- does not deliver this.
We need more boards that clock like the Badaxe & P5WDH but don't cost 250$.
Donnie27
07-28-2006, 10:46 PM
The problem with the Gigabyte DS3 is that it seems to achieve less and less FSB as you increase the Multi. Sure it'll do 500 the 7x multi of an Allendale, but i don't think i've seen over 400 on a 6600, and thus i have no reason to think it would go over 400 with a 6700. I need well over 400 fully stable from bootup with a 9 or 10x multi, the 150$ "budget" Conroe board -- the DS3 -- does not deliver this.
We need more boards that clock like the Badaxe & P5WDH but don't cost 250$.
If mine, whenever I get it, goes to 3.6GHz I'm happy as hell. At an even 3GHz it kicks the crap out of everything on the market except higher clocked Conroes.
The other guy is right about the boards and i965s, mine was $142.99 should have sold for maybe $89 at it best and maybe on sale for $69 but I bought it so I can't complain. Wasn't the smartest purchase I ever made for sure.
I have everything ready and waiting for the processor.
[G.N.U.]Fragman
07-28-2006, 11:32 PM
well i would never have the board to be the limit if there is a better board....and i really prefer DFI..i know they can take it over a long period....and the bios is just loveable when you get into it....control enough to fry ram and cpu if u want :) ...too bad the lanparty isnt ready yet.
barney_2k
07-30-2006, 02:22 AM
Very good thread
its helped me alot over the past few days planning my new rig!
i think im gonna go with the Gigabyte DS4, simply for overclocking, as from what ive heard its a great performer
thx skyline
Barney
Pjoeloe
07-30-2006, 06:43 PM
gigabyte ds3 review : 450 max fsb : http://www.maxitmag.com/testing-bay/motherboards/gigabyte-ga-965p-ds3-motherboard-review/2
review asus ASUS P5W DH Deluxe : http://www.maxitmag.com/testing-bay/motherboards/asus-p5w-dh-deluxe-motherboard-review/2 "Average overclocking ability " max fsb = 400 mhz
gigabyte dq6 doing 501 mhz fsb :) http://www.vr-zone.com/index.php?i=3848
BottomsUp
07-30-2006, 07:26 PM
gigabyte ds3 review : 450 max fsb : http://www.maxitmag.com/testing-bay/motherboards/gigabyte-ga-965p-ds3-motherboard-review/2
review asus ASUS P5W DH Deluxe : http://www.maxitmag.com/testing-bay/motherboards/asus-p5w-dh-deluxe-motherboard-review/2 "Average overclocking ability " max fsb = 400 mhz
gigabyte dq6 doing 501 mhz fsb :) http://www.vr-zone.com/index.php?i=3848
In the ds3 article they are using +.3v MCH. Is that safe for 24/7 use?
[XC] serlv
07-30-2006, 10:08 PM
GIGABYTE GA-8I945GZME-RH LGA775/ 945GZ/ FSB800/ DDR533/ A&V&L/ MATX Motherboard
$74
Direwolf
07-30-2006, 10:19 PM
All the articles are with Allendale's, we need more previews with 6600/6700's!
boomheadshot45
07-30-2006, 11:47 PM
whats a good crossfire motherboard thats decently priced?
Pjoeloe
07-31-2006, 07:44 AM
In the ds3 article they are using +.3v MCH. Is that safe for 24/7 use?
with good cooling that`s no problem
whats a good crossfire motherboard thats decently priced?
ASRock Sockel 775 ConRoeXFire-eSATA2
http://www.abtron.de/shop/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=7972 / 73 euro
Asrock 775XFire-eSATA2 Sockel 775
http://shop.norskit.de/nit/default.asp?PageNo=DEFAULT&DeepLink=PF10000D%2CHardware%2CMAINB%2DSOCK7751100 26825 64 euro :)
edit : new review of the gigabyte dq6 / http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=572&p=5 . :stick: max fsb = 333 mhz
[G.N.U.]Fragman
08-01-2006, 01:00 AM
it seems results is a bit unstable about DQ6 ....
Skyline GT-R
08-01-2006, 01:44 AM
Ok, i'm back from Italy :)
First post updated
Pjoeloe
08-01-2006, 07:07 AM
Core Duo 2 heatsink / cpu fan group test : http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2006/08/01/conroe_heatsink_group_test/1.html
JamesAvery22
08-01-2006, 07:33 AM
Ok, i'm back from Italy :)
First post updated
Awesome thanks :D
X-S!D3
08-01-2006, 09:54 AM
Which is the best mid range mobo for Intel Core 2 Duo E6600???
Pjoeloe
08-01-2006, 10:50 AM
gigabyte ds3 , 500 mhz fsb :D , cheap
Skyline GT-R
08-02-2006, 01:29 AM
Although several sites says it s a pico BTX (max 1 slot), it's actually nano BTX (max 2 slots (http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2006/1847/gigabyte_ga-8ibgnbx-rh.jpg)) according to formfactors.org (http://www.formfactors.org/developer/specs/BTX_Specification%20v1.0b.pdf) (page 12).
...not sure that anyone here at XS cares.....;)
Thx, changed it ;)
X-S!D3
08-02-2006, 06:00 AM
When do DFI RD600 and NV 590 SLI Intel edition mobos come out for sale in Europe and which would be better for E6600??
How much will they cost?
AAmeeting
08-02-2006, 06:55 AM
does anyone know why would the ASUS P5ND2 SLi edition motherboard wouldnt run conroe?
Whats the difference from the P5N32 SLi edition that makes it compatible and mine not?
http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=227&model=558&modelmenu=1 is a link to my motherboard.
dinges
08-02-2006, 07:07 AM
@X-S!D3: in another month (give or take a few days), and costs would prolly be €220+ (if not €250+).
@AAmeeting: the power regulating area differs so much from netburst only boards that it had to be redesigned.
Pjoeloe
08-02-2006, 10:48 AM
First Looks from Taiwan – RD600 "CrossFire Xpress 3200 IE"
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/931/1/page_1_introduction/index.html
Intel Core 2 Duo Family review
http://www.techspot.com/review/8-intel_core_2_duo_family
vapb400
08-02-2006, 09:43 PM
I'm fairly confident this Jetway one will work: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813153049
I saw Conroe working on the 890 Pro chipset in another thread. Price is right, it has decent OC controls and it supports DDR or DDR2, but the board is single channel.
Update:
Jetway has released an matx P4M9MP using the VIA P4M890 chipset
http://www.jetwaycomputer.com/spec/P4M9MP.pdf
they have also added 965G and p965P ATX boards to the us website
WiCKeD
08-03-2006, 10:24 AM
Although several sites says it s a pico BTX (max 1 slot), it's actually nano BTX (max 2 slots (http://www.hardwarezone.com/img/data/articles/2006/1847/gigabyte_ga-8ibgnbx-rh.jpg)) according to formfactors.org (http://www.formfactors.org/developer/specs/BTX_Specification%20v1.0b.pdf) (page 12).
...not sure that anyone here at XS cares.....;)
EATX = 6+ slots wide
ATX = <=6 slots wide
micro = 3 slots wide
flex (http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/cn22399b.htm) = 2 slots wide
miniITX (http://store.mp3car.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=50) = 1 slot wide
nanoITX (http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/sc.8/category.83/.f) = 0 slots wide, 1 mini-PCI, integrated everything, SO-DIMM
So 2 slots on the wrong side of the board I would call flexBTX. ;)
Pjoeloe
08-03-2006, 01:27 PM
ASUS P5W DH Deluxe vs Gigabyte GA 965P DS3 Conroe Motherboard Shootout
http://www.maxitmag.com/maxit-reviews/motherboards/asus-p5w-dh-deluxe-vs-gigabyte-ga-965p-ds3-conroe-motherboard-shootout/
hausner
08-03-2006, 01:43 PM
ASUS P5W DH Deluxe vs Gigabyte GA 965P DS3 Conroe Motherboard Shootout
http://www.maxitmag.com/maxit-reviews/motherboards/asus-p5w-dh-deluxe-vs-gigabyte-ga-965p-ds3-conroe-motherboard-shootout/
nice find i will check now :toast:
Turtle 1
08-03-2006, 02:03 PM
Check this out .
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/931/first_looks_from_taiwan_rd600_crossfire_xpress_320 0_ie/index.html
KaXXeN
08-04-2006, 02:02 AM
this board Asus P5B isnt c2d ready? it has to be the deluxe version of it or what? but all 965 are supposed to be conroe ready? and is DFI coming out with a 975x board for c2d? whats the ETA?
http://www.inwarehouse.se/productDetail.aspx?Id=e1112405&ReferId=3
[G.N.U.]Fragman
08-04-2006, 06:18 PM
kaxxen..they already have...but it has a problem with going over 370 FSB...
we await the lanparty with rd600 chipset instead....
WiCKeD
08-04-2006, 11:53 PM
Intel DG965SSCK - µATX - Available? (http://www.atacom.com/program/print_html_new.cgi?cart_id=4245605_72_148_224_119&Pagecode=SEARCH_ALL&Item_code=MB77_INTE_46_06&USER_ID=www) (prob 11th)
Intel DG965PZMKR - µATX - Not available
Intel DG965RYCK - µATX - Not available
Intel DG965WHMKR - µATX - Not available
Intel DP965LTCK - ATX - Available
Intel DQ965GFEKR - µATX -
Available? (http://www.atacom.com/program/print_html_new.cgi?cart_id=4245605_72_148_224_119&Pagecode=SEARCH_ALL&Item_code=MB77_INTE_46_11&USER_ID=www)
Intel DQ963FXCK - ATX - Not available
Skyline GT-R
08-05-2006, 02:10 AM
Yes several webshops have added the intel G965 boards to there site, but it's pre order ;)
mike65134
08-05-2006, 03:48 AM
I would like to build a workstation, that has to be really, really reliable. Unfortunately, I cannot afford Woodcrest.
So I am thinking of an E6700 with 4 x 2 GB DDR-557 ECC RAM (8GB total) from MDT. I will not play games or do video editing, so a XFX 6200TC with a GeForce 6200 TC will be more than enough. The case will be a Stacker 810 with three intaking and two exhausting 120mm fans for decent cooling.
For the 8 GB of ECC RAM there only seem to be the Asus P5W Boards or the Bad Axe Intel D975XBXKLKR. I do not like the Asus Deluxe, because I do not want WLAN. But the Premium or the WS would be fine.
Do you know any other boards, which can take 4 x 2 GB ECC?
Can anybody already give some estimates, which one could be the most reliable board? I do not want to oc, but it has to be stable and reliable.
Asus advertises their superior thermal design. Is the chipset really cooler than on the bad axe? If true, the P5W might last longer?
There was a thread about dying Bad Axes and it was suggested that there might be a problem with the combination with a Thermaltake Big Typhoon (pins a getting contact with the backplane).
If I do not want to overclock, is it safer to use the Intel stock fan, or to use a TBT, which would cool better, but the boards may not be designed with the TBT in mind?
JettaGLI
08-05-2006, 07:55 AM
I know found these pics of P5W64 WS just thought I would share them:woot:
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/bltzkrg/PC/P5W64%20WS%20Pro/DSCN0001.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/bltzkrg/PC/P5W64%20WS%20Pro/DSCN0002.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/bltzkrg/PC/P5W64%20WS%20Pro/DSCN0003.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/bltzkrg/PC/P5W64%20WS%20Pro/DSCN0004.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/bltzkrg/PC/P5W64%20WS%20Pro/DSCN0005.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/bltzkrg/PC/P5W64%20WS%20Pro/DSCN0006.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/bltzkrg/PC/P5W64%20WS%20Pro/DSCN0007.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/bltzkrg/PC/P5W64%20WS%20Pro/DSCN0008.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/bltzkrg/PC/P5W64%20WS%20Pro/DSCN0009.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/bltzkrg/PC/P5W64%20WS%20Pro/DSCN0010.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/bltzkrg/PC/P5W64%20WS%20Pro/DSCN0011.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/bltzkrg/PC/P5W64%20WS%20Pro/DSCN0013.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/bltzkrg/PC/P5W64%20WS%20Pro/DSCN0014.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/bltzkrg/PC/P5W64%20WS%20Pro/DSCN0015.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/bltzkrg/PC/P5W64%20WS%20Pro/DSCN0016.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b281/bltzkrg/PC/P5W64%20WS%20Pro/DSCN0018.jpg
KaXXeN
08-06-2006, 03:39 PM
Fragman']kaxxen..they already have...but it has a problem with going over 370 FSB...
we await the lanparty with rd600 chipset instead....
thanks for the heads-up
i cant decide wich mobo to get Gigabyte seems to oc very good indeed...
oh man i hate choosing :D
asus p5w dh seems to oc well to but gigabyte seems to hit the jackpot so far
dunno about intels badaxe... and the msi seems to oc decent
i might go for the gigabyte p965-dq6 mobo or maybe a 975 :confused: :hitself:
any piece of last advise befoer i order?
Osivert
08-07-2006, 10:31 AM
The Gigabyte GA-945GM-S2 (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2331&ModelName=GA-945GM-S2) is available at some stores, (I don't think it's listed in this thread). Has anyone had experience overclocking with the 945 chipset? What's the max FSB you think this thing can go? I might just go ahead and try this board with a e6300 or e6400 until a really good mATX board comes out.
RAGING DRAGON
08-07-2006, 05:22 PM
The Gigabyte GA-945GM-S2 (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2331&ModelName=GA-945GM-S2) is available at some stores, (I don't think it's listed in this thread). Has anyone had experience overclocking with the 945 chipset? What's the max FSB you think this thing can go? I might just go ahead and try this board with a e6300 or e6400 until a really good mATX board comes out.
It's my understanding that only the 975X and the 965 chipset support Core 2 Duo but on that link it says that board supports Core 2 Duo.
Khaotic
08-07-2006, 09:48 PM
I wish i would have read this sooner. I've been looking around for the a Conroe and I'm pretty sure I'll be getting the E6600. But as usualy, the inital public offering is pretty confusing. And after reading 28 pages of posts on motherboards - I think i've got it narrowed down. Now, off to read the thread on Gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 - something about overclocking problems.
commy
08-08-2006, 02:27 AM
Hi guys,
just a question to my new motherboard the ASUS P5WDG2-WS Professional.
Are there already ICH7 SATA/RAID drivers for Windows XP 64-bit?
Thanks a lot,
commy
Khaotic
08-08-2006, 03:00 AM
Check the Asus website. If there are, they will have them. And a stop by the INTEL website would probably turn something up too.
commy
08-08-2006, 05:30 AM
Hi there,
I included now this drivers, I want to make 1 * boot-hdd and 4 * hdd's @ RAID 10.
Anyone know's if this are all the needed drivers? The first one is the RAID driver from asus page, the second one is from asus too but the "IDE/SATA" driver. So normally I need both of them, right?
The third and last one are from Intel directly, do I need them? :)
Thanks a lot.
Cheers
Onepagebook
08-08-2006, 07:11 AM
Hi there,
I included now this drivers, I want to make 1 * boot-hdd and 4 * hdd's @ RAID 10.
Anyone know's if this are all the needed drivers? The first one is the RAID driver from asus page, the second one is from asus too but the "IDE/SATA" driver. So normally I need both of them, right?
The third and last one are from Intel directly, do I need them? :)
Thanks a lot.
Cheers
I think that'd be all for them;)
commy
08-09-2006, 12:23 AM
Okay, thanks a lot ;)
ProfessorFate
08-09-2006, 08:23 AM
The DFI INFINITY 975X/G is avail again at ZZF for $63 less than our "friends" at the Egg. Link (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=246514)
igor0203
08-09-2006, 09:13 AM
Which mobo do you recommend for E6400? Gigabyte DS3/DS4 or Asus P5W DH Deluxe? Which is better for OC?
ClockCatcher
08-09-2006, 09:38 AM
Which mobo do you recommend for E6400? Gigabyte DS3/DS4 or Asus P5W DH Deluxe? Which is better for OC?
E6300 & E6400 = Gigabyte DS3
E6600+ = Asus P5W DH Deluxe
igor0203
08-09-2006, 09:41 AM
Is DS3 good for OCing E6400? I read that a lot of people have problem with this board... :S
ClockCatcher
08-09-2006, 09:52 AM
Is DS3 good for OCing E6400? I read that a lot of people have problem with this board... :S
When the problems are solved then its the killer.
paradexes
08-10-2006, 12:12 AM
Bump. Now that some people have gotten the Core 2s are there any other boards that support the chips besides the ones listed? A press release from Nvidia states that they support nforce4 as well as nforce 5xx chipsets. My ga-8n-sli (rev1.1) may Support conroe. Seems like this thread is not getting a sticky when it really should be. While I know the power requirements on the Core 2s are different I imagine after a microcode BIOS update the ga-8n-sli series boards will support it. After all the quad is supporting it and it is based on the others.
Anyone know for sure? If you post an answer please have some defintive proof to back it up. Google turns up little info other than other forum posts.
To be honest I think it is lame that motherboard manufacturers are doing this. I get the impression that they are holding out and waiting until they sell some boards then post the BIOS updates after the fact. It seems like quite a few boards will support conroe with a BIOS update but the BIOS has not been released for a number of them so they can milk a few extra bucks out of the hype machine.
Intel is partly at fault here also by creating this hype and making an underwhelming quantity and overwhelming demand. This has also resulted in price gouging in a number of sites. Newegg even gouged for a couple of days there until people started complaining. Anyway not to stray off topic here but if anyone has any further info on the GA-8N-SLI 1.1 and conroe support I would appreciate it... THanks in advance.
Evilsizer
08-10-2006, 12:23 AM
Bump. Now that some people have gotten the Core 2s are there any other boards that support the chips besides the ones listed? A press release from Nvidia states that they support nforce4 as well as nforce 5xx chipsets. My ga-8n-sli (rev1.1) may Support conroe. Seems like this thread is not getting a sticky when it really should be. While I know the power requirements on the Core 2s are different I imagine after a microcode BIOS update the ga-8n-sli series boards will support it. After all the quad is supporting it and it is based on the others.
Anyone know for sure? If you post an answer please have some defintive proof to back it up. Google turns up little info other than other forum posts.
To be honest I think it is lame that motherboard manufacturers are doing this. I get the impression that they are holding out and waiting until they sell some boards then post the BIOS updates after the fact. It seems like quite a few boards will support conroe with a BIOS update but the BIOS has not been released for a number of them so they can milk a few extra bucks out of the hype machine.
Intel is partly at fault here also by creating this hype and making an underwhelming quantity and overwhelming demand. This has also resulted in price gouging in a number of sites. Newegg even gouged for a couple of days there until people started complaining. Anyway not to stray off topic here but if anyone has any further info on the GA-8N-SLI 1.1 and conroe support I would appreciate it... THanks in advance.
if the board you have supported c2d's it would be on the first page. yes older chipsets can support c2d but need the proper VRM for the lower voltage of c2d.
:welcome:
paradexes
08-10-2006, 12:26 AM
Yea I read unfortunatly no where anywhere is it really clear whether it really is supported or not hence why I asked. I guess I was looking for a more definite answer which it appears only the manufacturers can really answer at this point.
Is there a specific module I can looks for on the mobo that will tell me if the correct VRM module?
igor0203
08-10-2006, 12:43 AM
Ok I'm getting really confused with board for E6400. IS it better to buy Gigabyte DS3/DS4 or get Asus P5B Deluxe?
ClockCatcher
08-10-2006, 01:02 AM
Ok I'm getting really confused with board for E6400. IS it better to buy Gigabyte DS3/DS4 or get Asus P5B Deluxe?
Go with Gigabyte. The new BIOS'es (released yesterday) fixed some issues on 965P-boards, but because these are still betas don't install 'em yet.
igor0203
08-10-2006, 01:06 AM
Ok then I'll probably get DS4. Thanks for help, m8.
Evilsizer
08-10-2006, 01:34 AM
Yea I read unfortunatly no where anywhere is it really clear whether it really is supported or not hence why I asked. I guess I was looking for a more definite answer which it appears only the manufacturers can really answer at this point.
Is there a specific module I can looks for on the mobo that will tell me if the correct VRM module?
vrm is a voltage supply done by intel it is not a module you can just find. vrm 9 or 10 is the old one where vrm11 is the one that allows C2D usage. the easiest way to know is that any mobo out before the "conroe ready" mobos do not work. along the same lines as why the dothan needed the ct-479 to run in the skt478 mobos, needed a lower supply voltage.
This place rocks, amazing threads . First post, hi everybody
Mortal
08-12-2006, 04:16 PM
This place rocks, amazing threads . First post, hi everybody
Welcome to XS! Enjoy your stay. :toast:
Brahmzy
08-12-2006, 04:45 PM
This place rocks, amazing threads . First post, hi everybody
Whaddup nooh? Come over from the "other" place?
Floyd
08-14-2006, 09:32 AM
Hey, first post too. This thread has really been helpful as well as a few other here at Xtreme Systems, mainly "Places selling C2D at reasonable prices".
I've ordered my E6600 from shopBLT.com, it was $344 US plus shipping.
Now I just need a motherboard. Any word on when the NForce 590s will be in retail?
man whats up with this secrecy about RD600 boards. if these are to be availibly in september, way aint there beta tests hier on XS :(
this lack off info is driving me insane
-=OLEG2005=-
08-14-2006, 12:38 PM
Hi everybody, I am new here and I want to buy E6400, but unfortunaly I have an AGP card , and DDR 400 , but as I know Asrock 775i65g and Asrock Conroe865pe support Conroe,but if to take these two variants,whats's the best ? - as I know 865 can handle 300mgz FSB,or can it be higher ? - I don't know,but I thi nkConroe865pe is a little bit better,correct me if I am wrong...And I know a bit about 775 DUAL - VSTA, but I want to ask,what the maximum FSB on this mobo ?
Pirated
08-15-2006, 05:03 AM
Asrock mobo's that support conroe's are best bang for a buck but not definitely as good as high end mobo in the market today.
I used Asrock 775Dual - VSTA...
but, oh my god too many problems i encountered along the way.
but Twins775 was good mobo i have can reach a 340FSB.
DEVIL K-ce
08-15-2006, 05:36 AM
775Dual-VSTA & E6400
Cocacola
08-15-2006, 06:22 AM
HOLY MOLY!!
DDR2 1260 CL 4-3-3-8
what memory u are using?
DEVIL K-ce
08-15-2006, 07:27 AM
HOLY MOLY!!
DDR2 1260 CL 4-3-3-8
what memory u are using?
:D
This is not DDR speed ;)
Memory freq. is 630MHz ;)
[TAG]Imp
08-15-2006, 10:19 AM
lol, i was looking at that like "ZOMG! BEST RAM EVAR!"
xx_ED_xx
08-20-2006, 07:29 AM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813186101
the one person that bought it says it blows hmmmm
:banana:
Has anyone got anything new in the past week or so. I have had the E6600 for about three weeks now and i tell you its been painful. Your sitting in front of it everyday.
Its painful , it needs a 590 board fast.
Mortal
08-21-2006, 01:53 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813186101
the one person that bought it says it blows hmmmm
:banana:
And blow it does. ;)
"Pros: good board. stable @ 3.92 on a 3.6 prock." <--- :rolleyes:
xx_ED_xx
08-21-2006, 04:06 PM
has anyone had any luck with the asus 975 board? Asus P5W DH DELUXE i think i may get that til the 3200 board comes out
775911
08-23-2006, 10:05 AM
775Dual-VSTA & E6400
Not bad so is 314fsb about the limit for this board? I presume the CPU could have gone higher (even without more voltage) quite easily otherwise.
day187
08-23-2006, 11:47 AM
has anyone had any luck with the asus 975 board? Asus P5W DH DELUXE i think i may get that til the 3200 board comes out
The Asus P5B Deluxe is an ok motherboard.
Vcore1.45v
Vdimm2.0V
NB 1.55v
Temps Idle 28c Load 44c
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6649/everydayzm3.jpg
I hope it helps
xx_ED_xx
08-24-2006, 06:58 PM
Nice:toast:
xx_ED_xx
08-27-2006, 02:02 PM
:clap:
The egg has 2 boards from ecs if u need a CHEAP board to run a conroe
one does agp
one does both types of memory
50 bux
I think thats about the cheapest i have seen
X-S!D3
08-28-2006, 04:02 AM
Which is the best board to get for C2D E6600:
-Asus P5W DH DELUXE
-Asus P5B DELUXE
-DFI Infinity 975X
-wait for DFI LP nF 590 SLI Intel Editon
-any other
????
LexDiamonds
08-28-2006, 10:44 AM
Which is the best board to get for C2D E6600:
-Asus P5W DH DELUXE
-Asus P5B DELUXE
-DFI Infinity 975X
-wait for DFI LP nF 590 SLI Intel Editon
-any other
????
A lot of people would suggest waiting for an RD600 board. Price may be prohibitively expensive when they first drop however.
775911
08-29-2006, 10:47 AM
When is it due
xx_ED_xx
08-31-2006, 05:47 PM
Thats a damn good question...:woot:
Fean0r
09-01-2006, 03:18 AM
Hi, another newbie here!
I've been doing a lot of research about the new PC I'm building over the last few months, and since the new c2d has come out I've been waiting for a suitable motherboad. And watching. And waiting some more.
Normally I don't wait for whatever's round the corner, because I'd spend all my time waiting... but I wanted to enjoy the summer outside, and now the weather here in Germany has turned rubbish I think it's time to order my bits.
I'm planning to get the 7900GTX graphics card, and I had wanted to get an SLI-capable motherboard so that when my 7900 can't hack it anymore I can just buy another - by then another 7900 would be much cheaper than whatever single card is top of the range. I'm not interested in going SLI just yet as on today's games it's only really worth doing if you use silly resolutions, which I wouldn't be using on my 19" LCD.
I'm also wanting to run 2 LCDs, partly so I can use Windows apps on one while playing games on the other. SLI wouldn't allow me to do this unless I got a cheap third graphics card for PCI.
Now here is the crux of my indecision. I had promised myself that I wouldn't bother overclocking this time, but the easy overclocking potential of the c2d is too easy to turn down and should delay my next upgrade significantly (and save money in the long run). I've read that the NF4 chipsets are rubbish for overclocking and support SLI, but the Intel 975X chipset is great for overclocking but doesn't support SLI. So I have to choose between SLI and overclocking, and I just can't make up my mind.
My options are: Asus P5N32-SLI SE Deluxe, Asus P5WDH Deluxe, or wait for NF5 motherboards. I really don't want to do the latter. (I've gone for Asus not only because of their good rep but also I want a quiet system, and DFI LP boards have tiny fans which I imagine are noisy. I'm not too fussed about the poor connector positioning on the P5N32.)
I'm currently leaning towards the idea of getting the P5WDH and forgetting about ever going SLI, but I keep going round in circles. By this evening I'll probably have changed my mind again for the umpteenth time, and will be leaning towards the P5N32. It's not an easy choice... I've outlined the factors that are affecting my decision, so what do you guys think??
Brewhaus
09-01-2006, 08:26 PM
Hiya
Also a newbie here. I also am planning my conroe adventure. I haven't been much of an overclocker since my last few chips have been not reliable.(Don't ask :rolleyes: ). Anyway below is the sytem as it stands now, but only the CPU, Memory, and Video are here. The MB is causing me the most trouble. This thread is what I needed to find all the options. Thanks!
This system will be overclocked and used as a gaming box. Have a picked what it takes to build a good system?
Thanks for the help.
xx_ED_xx
09-01-2006, 10:41 PM
ugh first mobo incompatible second one dead... damn it man:mad:
Brewhaus
09-02-2006, 10:18 AM
Thanks. Now someone who isn't a complete retard. :stick:
Haltech
09-02-2006, 10:34 AM
P5B would be my choice at this time for the best 965 board.
HeavyH20
09-06-2006, 07:40 PM
Anyone seen any leaked reviews on the ASUS P5N32-SLI Premium? It is the Intel 590 SLI board. Been hunting around. You can already get backorder status on ZZF. Supposedly, mid September for availability and a $299 price tag. I was just about to pick up an ASUS P5N32-SLI SE Deluxe board when I saw the return disclaimers had changed (defective return only, etc). That told me a new board was on the near horizon, so I started to look around. Details are still scant on how well this board will work.
http://zeus.asus.com/hq/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=337&model=1325&modelmenu=1
xx_ED_xx
09-09-2006, 05:37 PM
:mad:
ITs official board number two
The third board i have waited on
second ecs p965 board
I get the fans come on but nothing happens syndrome.
Just my experience with them
But also a warning :fact:
Next up is the MSI neo 965 board
I really miss gaming....
Hopefully soon the Rd600 boards will be out :banana:
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