ASUSTeK P5B / P5B Deluxe (Intel P965)

[sxs112]

Asus P5B (http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1178&l1=3&l2=11&l3=0) :
1. Intel P965 + ICH8 with optimized memory engine
2. JMicron JMB363 PATA and SATA controller
3. ADI 8-channel High Definition Audio CODEC
4. Realtek RTL8111B PCI-E Gigabit LAN controller
http://www.asus.com/999/images/products/1178/1178_l.jpg

Asus P5B Deluxe (http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1179&l1=3&l2=11&l3=0)
1. Intel P965 + ICH8R with optimized memory engine
2. JMicron JMB363 PATA and SATA controller
3. ADI 8-channel High Definition Audio CODEC
4. Marvell PCI-E and PCI Gigabit LAN controllers
5. TI 1394a controller
6. ASUS WiFi-AP Solo
http://www.asus.com.tw/999/images/products/1179/1179_l.jpg

[Fixxxer]

Interesting mobos.

When shall they be released?

[I_G]

No SLI on the P5B!! :nono:
Must have Deluxe.......:toast:

[Silves]

The fsb goes from 100 to 400, that's bad for the E6300 because of the low multi and for the extreme cooling users because ... well because they are extreme. Maybe with clockgen they can do a bit more.

[Vric]

P5B Deluxe for me..

I have a small question (a bit OT)

I have a Silverstone TJ06 case, and I was wondering if it would be "dangerous" to get a motherboard with heat pipe like the P5B Deluxe.

The TJ06 case make the Motherboard upside down, making the cpu on the bottom of the case with good airflow. Would the Heat pipe system on those board still working or working against gravity would make it useless cooling ?

Might be stupid, but this is something I was wondering for a while now.

Thanks

[sxs112]

Interesting mobos.

When shall they be released?

In June Mid

[automagic]

Looks to me like this is the Asus Conroe board we have been waiting for.

[Vric]

argg just looked, no Parallel port on the Deluxe ! How can I run my external LCD... grrr...

[SturmoV]

Asus P5B Deluxe (http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=1179&l1=3&l2=11&l3=0)
1. Intel P965 + ICH8R with optimized memory engine
2. JMicron JMB363 PATA and SATA controller
3. ADI 8-channel High Definition Audio CODEC
4. Marvell PCI-E and PCI Gigabit LAN controllers
5. TI 1394a controller
6. ASUS WiFi-AP Solo
http://www.asus.com.tw/999/images/products/1179/1179_l.jpg


8 phases?! I think I know which board I will buy for Conroe. The layout is kinda nice and clean too. :cool:

[5-Clicks]

The P5B Dlx is looking pretty nice...but it's layout has its disadvantages.

1) What moron decided to place the battery right beside the first PCI-E 16x slot?
2) The fanless NB heatpipe might be a problem for some big air coolers.
3) The front I/O pin panel is not color coded :( Hopefully that'll change on time for the release in 2-3 weeks.

Would Tony or somebody else be able to mod the BIOS to be able to go above 400 FSB? This looks like a fantastic board but the FSB limit could definately be a problem.

[Eastcoasthandle]

still awaiting 975 from Asus, screw the rest, get the best, IMO

[Benny Lodewijk]

classic question, how much ? :D

[MnM]

The P5B Dlx is looking pretty nice...but it's layout has its disadvantages.

1) What moron decided to place the battery right beside the first PCI-E 16x slot?
2) The fanless NB heatpipe might be a problem for some big air coolers.
3) The front I/O pin panel is not color coded :( Hopefully that'll change on time for the release in 2-3 weeks.

Would Tony or somebody else be able to mod the BIOS to be able to go above 400 FSB? This looks like a fantastic board but the FSB limit could definately be a problem.

Not to mention the 2 x PCI slots in between the PCI-E ones. Potentially none of those PCI slots can be used (depending on the cooling solution used for video card).

[nFo]

The P5B Dlx is looking pretty nice...but it's layout has its disadvantages.

1) What moron decided to place the battery right beside the first PCI-E 16x slot?
2) The fanless NB heatpipe might be a problem for some big air coolers.
3) The front I/O pin panel is not color coded :( Hopefully that'll change on time for the release in 2-3 weeks.

Would Tony or somebody else be able to mod the BIOS to be able to go above 400 FSB? This looks like a fantastic board but the FSB limit could definately be a problem.

3: Q-Connector
* Make connection quick and accurate!
The ASUS Q-Connector allows you to connect or disconnect chassis front panel cables in one easy step with one complete module. This unique adapter eliminates the trouble of plugging in one cable at a time, making connection quick and accurate.
:banana:

[5-Clicks]

Not to mention the 2 x PCI slots in between the PCI-E ones. Potentially none of those PCI slots can be used (depending on the cooling solution used for video card).
That's true. If someone used a VF900, then the lower middle PCI slot will be open, but that area will get HOT! They do leave one PCI at the bottom though...that'll be good for a sound card.



3: Q-Connector
* Make connection quick and accurate!
The ASUS Q-Connector allows you to connect or disconnect chassis front panel cables in one easy step with one complete module. This unique adapter eliminates the trouble of plugging in one cable at a time, making connection quick and accurate.
Ok, so problem numero 3 is solved :D Thanks nFo

[Vric]

3: Q-Connector
* Make connection quick and accurate!
The ASUS Q-Connector allows you to connect or disconnect chassis front panel cables in one easy step with one complete module. This unique adapter eliminates the trouble of plugging in one cable at a time, making connection quick and accurate.
:banana:

After 20 years or computing, finally someone had an idea for this mess of cable... God bless Asus. But I still want Parallel port :(

[cronic]

2 x PCI-E x16 (one @ x16 mode, the other @ x2 or x4 mode)

that sucks. i want a 975

[SturmoV]

2 x PCI-E x16 (one @ x16 mode, the other @ x2 or x4 mode)

that sucks. i want a 975


Whoops! :(

I think I'll pass... :rolleyes:

[PcCI2iminal]

2 x PCI-E x16 (one @ x16 mode, the other @ x2 or x4 mode)

that sucks. i want a 975


http://www.matbe.com/images/biblio/divers/000000039540.jpg

http://www.matbe.com/actualites/13410/asus-p5w-dh-deluxe/

[kiwi]

Caps so close to socket is a big NO NO :slapass:

In fact, Intel bad axe that I have now has them very close to socket and I can't properly install waterblock, not to mention pain in the a** insulating that area and installing SS cpu block or dice/ln2 container

[Vric]

For those that don't understand french, this article say the P5W-DH Deluxe will be available by the end of June with a price tag of 300Euro (removing their taxes, it give about 260us) Expensive mobo :p

[cronic]

the p5wdh deluxe is looking nice.

[XS Janus]

P5B Deluxe looks pretty cool to me, even the distribution of slots isn't that bad, it's about time for PCI-e cards to start showing up anyway.

Still sad that the fsb is up to 400 mhz, which maybe is achivable with E6600 on water, afterall we do have 367x9 confirmed on air even now. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=100921

But all that doesn't leave much headroom if every board can't reach 400 fsb
This could grow into a pretty stabile platform for those who don't wish to go the DICE or LN2 way
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[Skyline GT-R]

I don't like the Deluxe part in the name... Because that means there also will be a Premium version... Or am I wrong???

And 975X all the way for my Conroe!

[qdemn7]

Ecch! Damn all those PCI slots potentially unusable. I will pass. :mad:

[DaWaN]

I hope the 965 chipset does reach 400mhz FSB, because the 945 and 915 didn't have locks and they couldn't pass 220mhz without losing Sata.... :(

[pcworks]

I think the basic P5B will do for me nicely, don't need all the bells and whistles of the deluxe version. Now to find some cheapish quality ddr2 ram.
I expect the p5b will retail for about £90inc vat in the Uk.

Rob H

[davefr]

I'm surprised their isn't one listed based on G965. (integrated graphics)

[M@T!Z]

When there mobos will be in the shop?

[Vric]

When there mobos will be in the shop?
by the end of June..

[5-Clicks]

Will there be a non-Digital Home P5WDH Deluxe/Premium? That remote seems excessive for such a mobo and the mobo could probably be cut down to $200 or $220 without it and any software included with it.

[sierra_bound]

One thing people need to be aware of. Asus Intel boards are notorious for voltage droop. If you go to the xtreme mods section, you'll find a lot of threads dealing with droop mods for Asus S775 and S478 boards. The boards themselves are generally good. But you may end up modding your board later on.

[5-Clicks]

True, sierra bound, but that can be said for almost any Intel board that's good for overclocking. Take the Gigabyte's for example. Lately, the Abit's have been out of the question due to severe incompatibility and case by case nussiances.

[sierra_bound]

Point taken. But I just want to warn people who may wonder why the voltage is fluctuating all over the place. A droop mod may be a necessity if you really want to push your board.

[Skyline GT-R]

Will there be a non-Digital Home P5WDH Deluxe/Premium? That remote seems excessive for such a mobo and the mobo could probably be cut down to $200 or $220 without it and any software included with it.

I hope that to because I dont need those extra's :) But it will have an other name I guess, that DH in it's name stands for Digital Home I guess :P

[5-Clicks]

Thanks to \Karting_freak



asus p5wd2-e premium rev1.3 and p5wdg2-ws rev 1.03G also support conroe. i'll specify rev tomorrow. will also show the results if i get the right rev

Looks like there's our non-DH, Skyline GT-R :woot: No cool looking orange DIMMs, but I think I'll live... ;) :D

[JoeBar]

still awaiting 975 from Asus, screw the rest, get the best, IMO
Count one more! :)

[Schlingel]

http://www.matbe.com/images/biblio/divers/000000039544.png

P5WDH with 12,5mV steps and conroe support? so 6,25mV isnt necessary?

[FischOderAal]

I'm surprised their isn't one listed based on G965. (integrated graphics)

there'll be 2 more Mobos. called P5B-VM (for Micro ATX) and P5B-BM (for Micro BTX). they will have integrated Graphic


http://www.matbe.com/images/biblio/divers/000000039544.png

P5WDH with 12,5mV steps and conroe support? so 6,25mV isnt necessary?

hi Schlingel ^^ warum hast den Fred verheimlicht :D wir saugen doch jedwede Info sofort auf ^^

[\Karting_freak]

@5-Clicks
i dunno if its correst info
i'll get p5wdg2-ws tomorrow and check ;)

[Eclipsed]

I thought 965 is suppose to be the conroe chipset? Is 975 still going to be the better choice(I mean new 975's that support it)?

[5-Clicks]

@5-Clicks
i dunno if its correst info
i'll get p5wdg2-ws tomorrow and check ;)
Cool, thanks.:toast:

[elec999]

I dont understand why doesnt Asus fix the vdrop problem with their boards.
Thanks

[Vric]

Look like it will be p5wd2-e deluxe new rev. for me.

I didn't want to put that much money on a board, but the P5B is too "cheap" feature wise and I need a Parallel port (which the P5P Deluxe don't have)...

I will cheap out on the video card..

[Metroid]

I saw that only DFI will support NForce 590 in launch until now.

I was waiting for Asus to support the technology.

What a shame.:(

[PcCI2iminal]

Point taken. But I just want to warn people who may wonder why the voltage is fluctuating all over the place. A droop mod may be a necessity if you really want to push your board.

you just need to get the mods done if you go for the Xtreme and to stay in the top

[TL1000S]

I ordered my P5B Deluxe today... :)
Don't care about SLI/Crossfire.. or lotsa PCI..
Only thing that counts (for me) is a good CPU.. *one* decent graphics card.. and a pair of decent RAM sticks..
I'll se later which Conroe I'll choose, 6400 or 6600...

[cupholder2.0]

I ordered my P5B Deluxe today... :)
Don't care about SLI/Crossfire.. or lotsa PCI..
Only thing that counts (for me) is a good CPU.. *one* decent graphics card.. and a pair of decent RAM sticks..
I'll se later which Conroe I'll choose, 6400 or 6600...

What? Where you order from?

[Nanometer]

Well I think I might have found my new motherboard. As long as ASUS lives up to their notorious reputation that is..

[TL1000S]

What? Where you order from?

From Komplett.no... PSData.no will also have these boards... whichever get them first (probably Komplett)..
If Komplett cannot deliver (witin a week according to webshop) I will cancel order.. and probably buy elsewhere (PSData is cheaper)..

[grimREEFER]

p5b non-deluxe for me, im not paying extra for the frills
anyway, kentsfield suppported by 965p chipset?

[davefr]

From Komplett.no... PSData.no will also have these boards... whichever get them first (probably Komplett)..
If Komplett cannot deliver (witin a week according to webshop) I will cancel order.. and probably buy elsewhere (PSData is cheaper)..

I went to that PSData site and the boards are listed.

Looks like pricing is 1295 for Reg and 1745 for Deluxe in Kronens. That translates into $212 and $294 in US dollars.

Does "Ubekreftet 14.06.2006" translate into an expected avail. date???

[ludeboy12]

P5B deluxe for me....oh i cant wait

[Metroid]

It looks Asus has done what anyone else thinks favouring AMD once more.:mad:

Therefore they will repent in a near future what is taking away.:slapass:

What a shame. Asus will not support SLI on launch.:(

DFI Hold on I will take you to Extreme with Conroe.:D :fact:


.....

[Vric]

kentsfield suppported by 965p chipset?
This is what I'm wondering too. Does 965p and 975X support the next quadcore cpu ?

[elec999]

Does Asus list this board on their site.
Thanks

[Nanometer]

Does Asus list this board on their site.
Thanks


Of course not, the board isn't even released yet.

[bobov]

Of course not, the board isn't even released yet.

http://www.asus.com/products3.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=307&slname=Intel%20P965

[EZClock]

Caps so close to socket is a big NO NO :slapass:


I have a P5WD2-NP sitting right beside me, and the caps are pretty much the same distance apart as the board shown above. But, I do agree .. try insulating a socket without seal string getting caught in between :p:

[Nanometer]

http://www.asus.com/products3.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=307&slname=Intel%20P965


Sorry, but that isn't a 975X mobo.

[selder]

I think I will RMA my current P5WD2-E and ask for a rev. 1.03 when it is available.

[Supertim0r]

the P5B DX is nice...my next Intel board

[V I P E R]

the P5B DX is nice...my next Intel board
Only 400FSB :nono:
If you don't buy a higher multy CPU you'll be limited by the mobo.

[TL1000S]

I went to that PSData site and the boards are listed.

Looks like pricing is 1295 for Reg and 1745 for Deluxe in Kronens. That translates into $212 and $294 in US dollars.

Does "Ubekreftet 14.06.2006" translate into an expected avail. date???

Yes... and Komplett informs me about scheduled delivery 04.06.2006 for my order. If that's a "lie".. I will cancel and order from PSData (they are usually cheaper than Komplett at most items)..
Edit1:
"Only 400FSB"... I see we're getting spoiled/greedy here... :)
This (FSB limit) is usually a choise made by those coding the BIos... Lotsa examples before that this may be changed with at new BIos release..
For me "only 400FB" is enough though...
Edit2:
And Intel & SLI (nForce) has a rather bad reputation... nothing to blame Asus for though..
Not everyone (including me) that care much for SLI either..
Edit3.
Canceled my order... expected delivery 01.08.2006 (Komplett)..

[LUCI5R]

Ave,

Too much information here. I've got a couple of very basic questions...

Which Chipset supports Core 2 Duo CPU's ... 965? 975? 975x?
And which out of these three is the best for Core 2 Duo's?

Secondly, does the P5B Deluxe support ATI Crossfire ?

I do understand that the board will be out June End, and cost around $294. It's looking pretty good for me.

Thanks,
Mickey

[Sumanji]

I've been reading that P965 is performing better than i975X in memory benches and stuff. Anyone actually had a chance to play with them both side by side?

Cheers,

Suman

[XS Janus]

I've been reading that P965 is performing better than i975X in memory benches and stuff. Anyone actually had a chance to play with them both side by side?

Cheers,

Suman


I read that somewehere as well (it is somewhat logical) can't wait for the reviews:cool:

I bet Intel will "silently" release at NEW top performing chipset for Conroe, that later on will be the only one supporting Kentsfield before the next Bearlake chipsets, same as it happened with 975X boards
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[vintage_guitar]

What the :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: .. 300$..looks like i'm getting a cheap piece of crap..that price is rediculous! It would be cheaper to get a new rev 975x..

[TL1000S]

What the :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: .. 300$..looks like i'm getting a cheap piece of crap..that price is rediculous! It would be cheaper to get a new rev 975x..

Good luck finding a *good* cheap 975x board...
:)
PS.
Not sure what's crap though...

[vintage_guitar]

ECS are making p965.
http://sg.vr-zone.com/index.php?i=3633

[davefr]

ECS are making p965.
http://sg.vr-zone.com/index.php?i=3633

No IDE controller???

Some of us still have DVD burners. What are they thinking?

[sxs112]

This is what I'm wondering too. Does 965p and 975X support the next quadcore cpu ?

Yes,"965 Series" and "975X b2 Step" Support Kentsfiled(Quad-Core)

[Eclipsed]

Well the ECS description says no ide, but the pic shows 2 (one may be floppy) but it still has atleast one according to the pictures.

[MightyOne]

@davefr

I'm pretty sure that lime green thing on the board is for PATA ...

It's just a mistake in the article, while the ICH8(R) doesn't support PATA, most mobo makers add PATA support through an additional chip.

edit:
Typing too slow ... I agree, looks like one floppy, one IDE.

[Vric]

the green one is IDE and the black one Floppy.. Fairly easy to spot.
But it's ECS so.. who care ? :p:

[Sumanji]

Will there be no DFI board based on an Intel chipset then? All I can see is the Infinity i975x so far :(

[XS Janus]

LOOOL purple PCB.... Pretty trippy :D

OT: Man the PATA will die out sooner than the stupid floppy:rolleyes:
The board layout looks more usable than Asus, thats a shame:(
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[bigjohns97]

I wish these enthusist boards would kill off all legacy pata ps2 parallel serial and floppy.

[cupholder2.0]

Dont underestimate ECS, some of there boards are pretty good actually.

[Supertim0r]

the first pic of the ECS board...vmodded ?

[sxs112]

That is not finally completes the version.

[vintage_guitar]

They won't really charge 300USD$ for that 965 when the 975 is going to be over 60 dollars cheaper right?? When the bad axe has conroe support..what's the point of getting the more expensive one?? Are there any comparisons? I mean, the bad axe obviously has had good OC results..am I missing something?

[ost_2005]

They won't really charge 300USD$ for that 965 when the 975 is going to be over 60 dollars cheaper right?? When the bad axe has conroe support..what's the point of getting the more expensive one?? Are there any comparisons? I mean, the bad axe obviously has had good OC results..am I missing something?
how much ,bad axe?

[elec999]

Where can this boasrd p5b low end edition be purchased in Canada
Thanks

[georgesod]

The new 975 from asus (suports conroe & conroe extreme)
http://www.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=3327
:toast:

[Durzel]

Ecch! Damn all those PCI slots potentially unusable. I will pass. :mad:Actually from looking at the board the 1st and bottom PCI slot should be useable even with Crossfire.

[grimREEFER]

Yes,"965 Series" and "975X b2 Step" Support Kentsfiled(Quad-Core)
hmm, what a coincedence, kentsfield and g80 are coming at around the same time.

[vapb400]

hmm, what a coincedence, kentsfield and g80 are coming at around the same time.
Kentsfield is Q1 07, G80 is this summer, I see a closer relationship between R600 and Kentsfield releease dates (which is either before christmas or alongside the launch of DX10 and Vista)

[jbizzler]

What advantages does the Deluxe have over the norm for me?:

A second PCIe x16 (electricaly x4 or x2): Good for ATI GPU-as-PPU. :banana:
2 more SATA port: No need :confused:
1 more LAN port: No need :confused:
WiFi: No need :confused:
Directional mic: EXCELLENT! JUST WHAT I NEED! :woot:
A black PCB: They yellow one is ugly. :nono:

I'll have to see their prices. Right now I'm leaning towards the Deluxe, but if it's way overpriced, then I'll go with the regular. I just got my first clear-sided case. I don't want to see an ugly yellow PCB. I also like the Deluxe layout better. I have a sound card, and plan to get a PhysX card when they drop in price, and the non-Deluxe would place all my stuff in one clump.

**
X1900XT
-------|
Audigy 2 ZS
Physx
**
**

Good thing the X1900 fans blow outside.

Edit: Whyy are two SATA slots on each board black? These just saying, "I'm 1 and 2!"?

[FischOderAal]

What advantages does the Deluxe have over the norm for me?:

A second PCIe x16 (electricaly x4 or x2): Good for ATI GPU-as-PPU. :banana:
2 more SATA port: No need :confused:
1 more LAN port: No need :confused:
WiFi: No need :confused:
Directional mic: EXCELLENT! JUST WHAT I NEED! :woot:
A black PCB: They yellow one is ugly. :nono:

I'll have to see their prices. Right now I'm leaning towards the Deluxe, but if it's way overpriced, then I'll go with the regular. I just got my first clear-sided case. I don't want to see an ugly yellow PCB. I also like the Deluxe layout better. I have a sound card, and plan to get a PhysX card when they drop in price, and the non-Deluxe would place all my stuff in one clump.

**
X1900XT
-------|
Audigy 2 ZS
Physx
**
**

Good thing the X1900 fans blow outside.

Edit: Whyy are two SATA slots on each board black? These just saying, "I'm 1 and 2!"?


the P5B Dlx costs about 30€ more than the non Dlx here in Germany. in fact, it is at 180€ which is as expensive as the P5WD2-E... and only 20€ cheaper than the P5W-DH ;)

so I suppose that most people will buy 975X in Germany, due to the fact that 965 isn't faster at all...

to your Edit: these might be the ones added by another chip ;)

[jbizzler]

to your Edit: these might be the ones added by another chip ;)
The P5B says it has 4 from ICH8R, and 2 from some other chip. The two from the other chip are 1 internal and 1 external. I'm guessing the one internal is the one lone port on the yonder end of the expansion slots. So the P5WD2-E will support Conroe, eh? Well there's no sense in buying the new mobo without the new CPU, so I guess I'll just wait and see. The P5WD2-E's layout is a real mess, though.

I just wish NVIDIA would let Intel make an ultimate dual x16 board that supported Crossfire and SLI and ICH8R. But why would they? Who would buy an nForce then?

[Sumanji]

But why would they? Who would buy an nForce then?

Tbh, no one's gonna buy one anyway :D:p:

/me dons flame jacket!

[jbizzler]

Tbh, no one's gonna buy one anyway :D:p:

And why not? How else is a jerk who doesn't care about money gonna get a system with an X6800 and Quad-SLI at the same time? People will buy nForce Intel Editions because they will be the only way to get the ultimate machine, spec-wise. I loved my nForce 4 when I had it. Of course that was an AMD one, but still.

I might wait for an RD600. I doubt they'll be out by Conroe, but if you're looking for Crossfire, I think it'll blow away the 975Xs. Still no word of a 975X replacer AT ALL, and it's nearly a year old! I hope Bearlake will have an X edition.

[FischOderAal]

And why not? How else is a jerk who doesn't care about money gonna get a system with an X6800 and Quad-SLI at the same time? People will buy nForce Intel Editions because they will be the only way to get the ultimate machine, spec-wise. I loved my nForce 4 when I had it. Of course that was an AMD one, but still.

I might wait for an RD600. I doubt they'll be out by Conroe, but if you're looking for Crossfire, I think it'll blow away the 975Xs. Still no word of a 975X replacer AT ALL, and it's nearly a year old! I hope Bearlake will have an X edition.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1508266&postcount=14
look at that. Coolaler and some other OC'er had a Overclocking party with DFI, a XE6800, and a nForce 590 SLI. they only achieved a FSB of 272 mhz...

sounds like nForce 4 IE again :( let us all hope they only hadn't enough time to concentrate on FSB and fine-tuning ;)

[jbizzler]

OHHHHHH. Yeah, ASUS's website says you can bring their P5B from 100MHz to 400MHz in 1MH increments. And I suspect the RD600 will allow much higher speeds than that.

OMG, a theoreticxaly 400x16 = 6.4GHz!!
Not that anything will allow it to get that high, except liquid nitro. I'm gonna make a liquid nitro cooling kit.

[Silver Bullet]

I have a quetion / concern ...

We all see that there is only 1 IDE port on the Deluxe ver (see below, red). If that IDE is on a seperate controller how is one supposted to boot into Windows with only IDE based Roms drives, this assuming you can't boot off the controller, with no drivers ? I personlly just went out and bought 2 plextor SATA dvd-rs to make sure im good, but other people could have a pretty serious problem ?

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/5616/p5bdlx8cd.gif

[Vric]

I have a quetion / concern ...

We all see that there is only 1 IDE port on the Deluxe ver (see below, red). If that IDE is on a seperate controller how is one supposted to boot into Windows with only IDE based Roms drives, this assuming you can't boot off the controller, with no drivers ? I personlly just went out and bought 2 plextor SATA dvd-rs to make sure im good, but other people could have a pretty serious problem ?

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/5616/p5bdlx8cd.gif

It's all taking care of by the Bios.. don't worry

[Silver Bullet]

Hey all,

Got another question (seems this is the only place that some people know more than i do :)). anyway .. was wondering if the P5B Deluxe supports EEP (Enhanced Performance Profiles). I know this was started with the new AM2 nforce boards, just wondering if Intel picked it up in time for 965 chipset.

Reason I ask is becuase I was planning on using Corsair Twin2 2GB PC2 6400 C4 (with EEP) and was hoping that EEP might help just that little bit more.

edit .. not sure if 'help' is the right word, but u get the idea... i hope

[jbizzler]

I'm beginning to wonder that to. Is this up to the chipset or the manufacturer? Will EPP be strictly for nForce, or will we see it with RD600 and newer Intels?

[Vric]

who care about EPP ? you can set the timing by yourself.. Your in XS forum, not some newbie computer guy, are you ? :p:

all that EPP offer is different combo of SPD/speed settings. You can manually set them by yourself, it's the fun of tweaking !

[Andrewv]

WOOOOT 259 €. :\ so 200 very expensive

P5B looks nice mobo

[Anemone]

Yeah I'm thinking the NF5 Intel edition could have trouble. It's usually a bad sign when Asus won't give your board the time of day. Sure SLI would be nice, but if they figure out how to do it on a single slot, that's fine, and if not, well I've lived with a single card till now just fine.

And if I'm choosing stability and performance vs SLI, I think SLI has to go. I can use more than 4 SATA but honestly, the 975's all have additional beyond the 4 so that works.

The question is, is the 590 really bad or just preliminary? And second, are they going to update the 975 so it clearly outperforms the 965? Because if you start talking just a single x16 card either the 975 or 965 will do that.

Need to see some side by side performance here (in a place I trust to give quality results) before I'm going to say "yeah I'll buy that" to any of the above.

$.02

[FunkyRider]

Even P5B-Deluxe has only 1 16x and 1 4x, You can see it from the capacitors beside the slots.

This kind of asymmetric SLI/CF really sux ass

[Anemone]

Yeah, 975 for 8x/8x or NF5 for 16x/16x. That really seems to be the last 2 contenders here for me.

[illidan]

Yeah, 975 for 8x/8x or NF5 for 16x/16x.
and what about R600?

[[XC] Angstrom]

Hmmm def considering the P5B Deluxe.

I'm thinking
-High end GPU
------
*****
-Ageia Physx (whenever they come out with x4 PCI-E)
-Raid controller maybe?
-Audigy 2 ZS

I wonder if the Swiftech Storm will clear the caps (mounted parallel to RAM, vertical).

[Anemone]

I wouldn't touch an ATI chipset with a 10 foot pole, and neither Via.

I'm sure I'm alone on this one but that's my experience.

[graham_h]

P5B Deluxe for me aswell,

Don't need the stupid Wi-Fi but the rest looks good

Anyone have one yet ?

[grimREEFER]

hmm, for havok physics, can we use the second pci express slot on the p5b deluxe for an sm3.0 grafics card to do physics?
or would there be bandwith problems

[alpha0ne]

It all depends on availability at the time, Personally I prefer the P5B Dlx because of ICH8 and I dont want/need SLI and it "should" be cheaper than the P5W DH though its impossible to get an exact selling price on either ATM :)

[hookid]

Hey all,

Got another question (seems this is the only place that some people know more than i do :)). anyway .. was wondering if the P5B Deluxe supports EEP (Enhanced Performance Profiles). I know this was started with the new AM2 nforce boards, just wondering if Intel picked it up in time for 965 chipset.

Reason I ask is becuase I was planning on using Corsair Twin2 2GB PC2 6400 C4 (with EEP) and was hoping that EEP might help just that little bit more.

edit .. not sure if 'help' is the right word, but u get the idea... i hope

its only going to be on the Nforce 590 board

[Anemone]

Future memory controllers "can" recognize it, but it will take another generation of Intel controllers or 3rd party motherboard makers adding custom logic to recognize it.

So for this round it's 590 only unless it can be done via bios update (doubtful)

[Sulaco]

Does P5B/P5B Deluxe support EMT64? I don't see it mentioned anywhere.

[i||uSi0n^]

Does P5B/P5B Deluxe support EMT64? I don't see it mentioned anywhere.

well the board had the 965 chipset and it fully supports conroe and conroe has EM64T (yes its not EMT64), then i dont see why it wont...

i||uSi0n^

[Sulaco]

Oops, sorry about ther typo :slapass:

Since the board supports 8Gb of memory it would be strange if it did not support a 64 bit OS to be installed as well so I guess you are right :)

[hookid]

How much is the P5B? I think i will buy it until the DFI RD600 board comes out.

[Silver Bullet]

Tried, but couldn't find any trace of it ... ncix, newegg, pricewatch all blank. My guess ... $230US ish

[hookid]

Tried, but couldn't find any trace of it ... ncix, newegg, pricewatch all blank. My guess ... $230US ish

for the P5B!?!? .....im not talking about the Deluxe

[jaguarking11]

These mobos better be under 200bux. The way I see it, 975x conroe board should go for like 230 then the higher end 965 should go for 180ish and the lower end unit should go for like 130.

Mainboard prices have been escalating recently, Im not liking this.

[Anemone]

First 2 months = premium prices.

If you are looking for reasonableness, don't be in line to get one during that time.

[hookid]

Do we know the MAX FSB on the P5B? I really want to know!

[cadsii]

I dunno if anyone else noticed this but when i was oc my p5b dlx and had the vcore @ auto and went to health menu it said it was running @ 1.55Vcore i was like wtf... cause i just installed and my cpu temp was low 60s
so i put it manually @ 1.325 and violla 40C temps... just a fyi

i can push mine to 600

[yury2808]

cadsii: P5B-D iun auto mode raises the voltages... seen same thing, and set up manually, high tems gone.

ps. but according to RMClock, internal thermo-diode shows temperatures around 75C+ under load (6300 @ 2.8Ghz). not too good...