My Barton Just Arived

[bowman1964]

well my xp2800 barton is here and looks like i have a hot one...i hope.
i ordered a retail cpu for a change thinking that first batch of cpu chips would go to the oems and the later batches would get marked for retail as soon as the release date was near.and i might have called it right.
my chip

AXDA2800DKV4D
9411446260091
AQUCA 0304RPAW

that gives it a week of 4 ..last week of jan 03 .so this chip is just 3 weeks old.

here is a pic.

[IFMU]

Well enough of pictures, get this sucker into a system and crank that sucker up! Make it scream and let us know what it gives yea. :D

[DuraN]

OMG im awaiting your results man, im looking into the 2500+ myself :D

[Wolf]

Oh man :slobber: Get back with us and let us know how it does. Good call on the retail . I like the warranty also.

[Asniper]

You're one lucky man. Now lets get to them stats hehe :banana:

[bowman1964]

well as soon as i get home and feed my kidds i will play with my chip.i am still at work.

by the way.in case any of you thought i purchased the retail for that extra warranty......:eek: lol i am afraid not...
i will be cutting the chip maybe before the night is over if i have to to gain me some higher fsb room.

the reason i ordered the retail is just to help my odds of getting a newer week chip.plain and simple help the odds a little.a xp2800retail is only $8 higher than the oem in some places.and for $8 i am willing to give to help me get a better core.and i can always use the heatsink for something if nothing else cut it up for some mofset coolers.lol

now in a few months after they get out ..i wouldnt pay any extra but would buy the oem ,by then they will have better weeks.

dont worry i will be posting late tonight with some results:toast:

[BrainStorm]

Originally posted by bowman1964
by the way.in case any of you thought i purchased the retail for that extra warranty......:eek: lol i am afraid not...
i will be cutting the chip maybe before the night is over if i have to to gain me some higher fsb room.

Why cut? Why not "blow the bridge" using a battery as I have seen other talk about. Supposedly undetectable and you can still RMA the chip under warranty later if you need to.

Then again, I've never tried either method and would be somewhat paranoid to do so in the first place. ;)

Anyway, good luck with the chip and let us now how things go ASAP! :thumbsup:

[thesaucier]

Cant you tie wier arround the pins under the chip?

[muzz]

He could do the wire trick if he was connecting 2 bridges.... he is disconnecting though.

[cpulloverclock]

Originally posted by bowman1964
well as soon as i get home and feed my kidds i will play with my chip.i am still at work.

by the way.in case any of you thought i purchased the retail for that extra warranty......:eek: lol i am afraid not...
i will be cutting the chip maybe before the night is over if i have to to gain me some higher fsb room.

the reason i ordered the retail is just to help my odds of getting a newer week chip.plain and simple help the odds a little.a xp2800retail is only $8 higher than the oem in some places.and for $8 i am willing to give to help me get a better core.and i can always use the heatsink for something if nothing else cut it up for some mofset coolers.lol

now in a few months after they get out ..i wouldnt pay any extra but would buy the oem ,by then they will have better weeks.

dont worry i will be posting late tonight with some results:toast: hurry up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[NoOne]

:banana: i wanna see oc :D:slobber:

[Mike EFix]

Would like to see 2750-2800MHz out of that one

[Da[]San]

If it was me i would definately be pulling a sickie..

Can't wait to see ur results..:)

[shray]

KWIKLY I wanna see oc.. bTW i hope you run prommies or sumthin hardcore..

[gokickrocks]

cutting the bridge is easier than blowing the bridge...

all you need to do is take a quick stab at it with an xacto knife and youre done

[TerroH8er]

oo yeah use your phase change setup on it. Actually it would nice to know what it'll do on air but hey, it would be nice to see the limits of the chip. Let us know!

[sysfailur]

I'm just waiting for some results on wether or not to buy myself one.. I got plenty of crap I can sell to make up for the price of a barton if they're good enough ;)

[bowman1964]

well unlike the xp2600....so far it seams to run fine at high fsb.
on air i got it up to 2400mhz 218x11@1.8v .but i have no mutiplyers over 12.5.so i am at the moment removing the foam corner suports on the chip and replacing them with epoxy mounting pads.(i do every AMD i own like this.)to prevent chipping of the core. and i am cutting the L3 also.i will need the 13 multiplier i hope. i did make a 3dmark03 run to see how it ran at that speed on air.here it is.
i am now trying to install in my evaperator back on the chip to cool her down.

[WxChaser]

on air i got it up to 2400mhz 218x11@1.8v

Good work and quick benches, thanks a lot bowman. I've been looking forward to an unbiased Barton review for a while now, especially one without handpicked chips. When you cool that puppy down, I can imagine your benches. Thanks man.

[muzz]

XLNT bowman.... keep us advised of your progress bruh.:toast:

[bowman1964]

well cut the L3 bridge and got my upper multiplyers.so i am working on reinstalling the evaperator tommorow and push it a little harder lol:D
my last xp2600 started off about the same overclock on air and finally made it to a stable 2834mhz that i have been benching with.i hope this barton gets about the same.but i will see tommorow night i hope.:D

[JNav89GT]

y don't you have multi's over 13
your epox bios should support that I would think, but then again what is the default multi of the 2800+ again?

[Hallowed]

12.5 is 2800+ Mult.

Bowman, which L3 bridges did you cut / connect?

On a different note, if you remember a guy who goes by "jacktheripper", were about done with the R404 unit. :)

[bowman1964]

Originally posted by Hallowed
12.5 is 2800+ Mult.

Bowman, which L3 bridges did you cut / connect?

On a different note, if you remember a guy who goes by "jacktheripper", were about done with the R404 unit. :)

yes it uses a 12.5 x166...and i know everyone thinks these boards unlock the new chips but at this moment they do not allow multiplyers over 12.5.
my xp2600 was the same way that is why i have no problem cutting the chip ,as i have done it before.:)
this maybe solved with a bios change down the road but not yet.

anyway here is the bridge i cut .

[ExtremeAMD]

Sweetness dude, lets see how it does. :D:D

[xgman]

How about the L12 cut which seemed to help my 2800+ T-Bred run more stable on the epox. Do you think that may also help here?

Also, what sink were you using for the air cooling?

[bowman1964]

the L12 i am not sure yet.i might cut it anyway tonight it causes no harm to cut it.only set the default setting to 133 bus.and who cares about default setting anyway lol.......
i am using a sK7 I keep around for for times like this...

[baller02]

to make it clear newer boards only are able to fully unlock(5-24) tbred's with default multiplier of 13 and higher!!!!
with tbred's which have default multis of 12,5 and smaller only multiplier from 5-12,5 are slectable.

[bowman1964]

Originally posted by baller02
to make it clear newer boards only are able to fully unlock(5-24) tbred's with default multiplier of 13 and higher!!!!
with tbred's which have default multis of 12,5 and smaller only multiplier from 5-12,5 are slectable.

you are excately right.if you install a chip with a 13 and higher multiplyer you will be able to change your multiplyer.:)

[xgman]

So that would be a 3000+, not the 2800+ unfortunately.

[tape]

Originally posted by muzz
He could do the wire trick if he was connecting 2 bridges.... he is disconnecting though.

So pull out those pins then :D :banana:

[muzz]

He may as well while he's at it....... slicing up the rest of it already.....;) :D

[ExtremeAMD]

WE WANT UPDATES ON TEH O/C!!! :D

[bowman1964]

OK OK got some results.

now i am buring in right now running endless loops of 3d2001se.2636mhz 210x 12.5@1.95v
i wont try anymore untill tommorow.going to let this thing run hard for a few more hours.

look at this default 3d2001se score with my radeon 8500
:D

[BrainStorm]

bowman, you're not still on air cooling at this point are you?

[bowman1964]

Originally posted by BrainStorm
bowman, you're not still on air cooling at this point are you?

no i went ahead and hooked up the evaperator.chip seamed to not like over 1.9v on air.and i was getting impaient.i think it will run 2.6 on a high end fan and heatsink.water it would be easy.
but now i am still running loops of 3d2001 with no problems yet @1.95v core 2.634mhz:D

i think it wil go 2.8 or better before i am finished........:toast:

[BrainStorm]

I didn't think you were still on air, although it would have been awesome if you still were! Anyway, I think you'll make 2.8 too (with a bit more juice)! Good luck!

[xgman]

My oem 2800 Barton has all the same markings and dates as your retail one, except instead of 0304RPAW, it says 0304WPAW.

[KingInge2000]

Originally posted by xgman
My oem 2800 Barton has all the same markings and dates as your retail one, except instead of 0304RPAW, it says 0301WPAW.
Year 03 Week 01. But Week 01 was the last in 02.

[baller02]

some onlineshops in germany also have bartons, they have also xp2500's for 209 € in stock.

[bowman1964]

Originally posted by xgman
My oem 2800 Barton has all the same markings and dates as your retail one, except instead of 0304RPAW, it says 0301WPAW.

Hope your's does as good as mine so far.i am well pleased so far.
let us know how your's does.

i am going to push mine tonight some more:D

[Caprid]

Originally posted by xgman
My oem 2800 Barton has all the same markings and dates as your retail one, except instead of 0304RPAW, it says 0301WPAW.

Were did you get it from? Just curious, mine's in transit from newegg, hopefully have it by Saturday.

I'll make sure to check back tonight. Keep up the good work bowman, would very much like to see you hit 2800Mhz. Hoping mine will clock at least as high as my 2700+, which tops out at 2863Mhz.

[DJ_Datte]

That is incorrect as far as I know, regarding the Mults.. I have a XP1700 (mult of 11X) and am running it now at 15 x 166 FSB flawlessly. Without any changes to the chip itself. :)

/Damir

[mike.elmes]

I am still breAking my XP2700+ in, but at 2.88g I believe these Bartons will be like comparing the original thunderbirds to the first xp's.

[akaBruno]

I keep hoping that these things will crack 3G eventually.

Hard to tell w/ the early steppings.

BRUNO

[xgman]

Originally posted by Caprid
Were did you get it from? Just curious, mine's in transit from newegg, hopefully have it by Saturday.

I'll make sure to check back tonight. Keep up the good work bowman, would very much like to see you hit 2800Mhz. Hoping mine will clock at least as high as my 2700+, which tops out at 2863Mhz.

The egg. (fed ex saver came in 2 days across the country) I meant 0304WPAW by the way.

[bowman1964]

well mine is getting stonger.up to 2741@1.95v.

one thing i know for sure right now...these chips do not like high voltage.mine will blue screen with anything over 2.05v.

it is burning in nicely so far.:banana: :banana:

[Asniper]

Originally posted by bowman1964
well mine is getting stonger.up to 2741@1.95v.

one thing i know for sure right now...these chips do not like high voltage.mine will blue screen with anything over 2.05v.

it is burning in nicely so far.:banana: :banana:

nice, soo far these chips don't look to bad :), keep us updated

[ExtremeAMD]

2.75 is nothing to cry about... Thats about a 3ghz tbred aint it for PR rating? Dayyyyyyyum. :).

[WerewolfX]

Bowman it could be your Mofsets overheating on your 8rda+ not allowing you to be stable art 2.05 do you have any heatsinks on them?

[WerewolfX]

doh

Just a double post.

[muzz]

hehehe yes he does.... cooled good with a hacked up slot 1 hs AFAIK

[bowman1964]

Originally posted by WerewolfX
doh

i surpose you found out that i am allready at the edge of cooling extreeme.......LOL :cool:

[Malecky]

Anyone thougt about the 8RDA having Voltage protection...after all you all get stuck at the same voltage...

Cut something...dunno what I hate Epos.

You are supossed to cut a trace on the mobo...Get someone to explain...

[bowman1964]

Originally posted by Malecky
Anyone thougt about the 8RDA having Voltage protection...after all you all get stuck at the same voltage...

Cut something...dunno what I hate Epos.

You are supossed to cut a trace on the mobo...Get someone to explain...

:D Well my friend i have done that one.
that mod is for the board cutting off after pulling to much current and OVP kicks in.i was one of the first bunch of guys doing that.

the board is great now no problems at all .that i can see right now.it is just my new barton doesnt like high voltage.and it may be because of the extra L2 . I totally expect the bartons to be slower in clock speed because of the extra L2.the way it looks at this moment I think about 100 mhz lower overall speed is to expected over a similar tbred.my current xp2600 tbred will run 2834@2.1volt and i believe after a week or too i will see close to that speed with my barton xp2800.i have allready had my barton at 2808 mhz but i have lots of errors and since it wont take any voltage over 2.0 v at this moment i will have to just try to burn it in a little bit at a time.the extra L2 does make a differance in overclocking the chip.
i am just trying to let everyone know how mine is going.when i go out to buy something i like to here how it is doing from guys in here first sometimes and i really enjoy reading sucess stories everyone has.helps me decied sometimes yes or no when purchacing something.It is just i am at the point in time as i am able to purchace some of these things before others right now.and as i got help from others before when was unable to buy the best as soon as it came out i am trying to return the favor and help some other's out in here.
:toast:

[bowman1964]

Originally posted by Malecky
Anyone thougt about the 8RDA having Voltage protection...after all you all get stuck at the same voltage...

Cut something...dunno what I hate Epos.

You are supossed to cut a trace on the mobo...Get someone to explain...

:D Well my friend i have done that one.
that mod is for the board cutting off after pulling to much current and OVP kicks in.i was one of the first bunch of guys doing that.

the board is great now no problems at all .that i can see right now.it is just my new barton doesnt like high voltage.and it may be because of the extra L2 . I totally expect the bartons to be slower in clock speed because of the extra L2.the way it looks at this moment I think about 100 mhz lower overall speed is to expected over a similar tbred.my current xp2600 tbred will run 2834@2.1volt and i believe after a week or too i will see close to that speed with my barton xp2800.i have allready had my barton at 2808 mhz but i have lots of errors and since it wont take any voltage over 2.0 v at this moment i will have to just try to burn it in a little bit at a time.the extra L2 does make a differance in overclocking the chip.
i am just trying to let everyone know how mine is going.when i go out to buy something i like to here how it is doing from guys in here first sometimes and i really enjoy reading sucess stories everyone has.helps me decied sometimes yes or no when purchacing something.
It is just i am at the point in time as i am able to purchace some of these things before others right now.and as i got help from others before when was unable to buy the best as soon as it came out i am trying to return the favor and help some other's out in here.
:toast:

i just hope it helps some;)

[ARGON]

We appreciate that bowman! :)

[cpulloverclock]

I have a 2500+

AXDA2500KV4D
AQUCA 0303 VPAW
93987472S0024


I hope 2800MHz with 2v (224*12.5 in dual ddr)

wc+vapochill and soon a prometeia (3.1GHz :D )

[sysfailur]

Just for everyone's information, I'm ordering a 2800+ Barton tomorrow. I'll of course post up my findings.

[shogan191]

Thanks for the info. It all helps.:)

[WerewolfX]

I'm still waiting for a good 2500+ stepping although i may just go guinnua pig and get one to test this sunday.

[cpulloverclock]

Originally posted by WerewolfX
I'm still waiting for a good 2500+ stepping although i may just go guinnua pig and get one to test this sunday.
My 2500+ is clocked at 2620-2700MHz with 2-2.05v
It heats more than my 2400+ at 2610MHz and 2.15v!!!!!!
:mad:

[twiggy]

Originally posted by cpulloverclock
My 2500+ is clocked at 2620-2700MHz with 2-2.05v
It heats more than my 2400+ at 2610MHz and 2.15v!!!!!!
:mad:

What cooling on that 2500+?

[denstore]

Originally posted by cpulloverclock
My 2500+ is clocked at 2620-2700MHz with 2-2.05v
It heats more than my 2400+ at 2610MHz and 2.15v!!!!!!
:mad:

What cooling? Prometia? What motherboard?
How far did you get on air (if you tried)?
What stepping did the 2500+ have?
I´m about to buy either a 2500+ Barton or a 2600+, but you don´t seem to be that satisfied with your Barton. How does it compare in benchmarks?

Thankfully,
Magnus

[xgman]

My 2800+ goes to about 2520 on air, but anything over 1.85 or 1.875 volts gives a bluescreen or crashes. On the exact same platform (8rda+, etc.) My 2800+ T-bred would take 1.92v on air just fine, so thie barton seems to want lower volatge even though the temps are only in the low to mid 30's. (lower than what the non-barton 2800 temps were at similar mhz)

All that said, the barton seems to make Windows a bit zippier due to the extra cache. But that may be my imagination or wishfull thinking.

It did improve PCMark cpu and memory scores as compared to the exact saame settings and speeds again of the non-barton 2800.

[Caprid]

Originally posted by xgman
My 2800+ goes to about 2520 on air, but anything over 1.85 or 1.875 volts gives a bluescreen or crashes. On the exact same platform (8rda+, etc.) My 2800+ T-bred would take 1.92v on air just fine, so thie barton seems to want lower volatge even though the temps are only in the low to mid 30's. (lower than what the non-barton 2800 temps were at similar mhz)

All that said, the barton seems to make Windows a bit zippier due to the extra cache. But that may be my imagination or wishfull thinking.

It did improve PCMark cpu and memory scores as compared to the exact saame settings and speeds again of the non-barton 2800.

What stepping is it?

[xgman]

AQUCA 0304WPAW

by the way, 3DMark2003 doesn't run as easily as it did on the 2800+ (non-barton) I have discovered.