NVIDIA Fermi rendered these ???? Really wow

ajaidev · 10-30-2009, 04:55 AM

".....Code-named "Fermi" next-generation CUDA architecture is the history of the world's most advanced GPU computing architecture. Fermi has more than 30 million transistors, with a maximum of 512 CUDA core, enabling supercomputing performance, features and terror. With only the CPU-based compared to traditional servers, while its cost is only one-tenth, and the power consumption is only one-twentieth.."

Translated "Translated via yahoo, google was having some problem translating and ending up with a blank page... "

Orignal

If true, i like a lot.... Finally Nvidia delivered something

... Oh n thanks to FUD for the link

Pinacolada · 10-30-2009, 05:02 AM

WOW

but most probably it will work only on 1000$+ > "pro" cards

Cold Fussion · 10-30-2009, 05:03 AM

At what speed? That does not look real time to me.

Sam_oslo · 10-30-2009, 05:10 AM

That Rendering looks really "real" and cool

, but what is more important (at least what Nvidia have been trying to push lately) is the ... 512 CUDA core, enabling supercomputing performance.

spicypixel · 10-30-2009, 05:11 AM

WTB more info.

Jamesrt2004 · 10-30-2009, 05:23 AM

not to "hate" but surely ANY graphics card could render an image like that.. its just the thing is how long/realtime/what fps etc...

its like the dx9 shots.. did we ever see anything as good as them.. not really (ok crysis was pretty close) but you know what i mean

with a maximum of 512 CUDA core, enabling supercomputing performance

lol.. i'd love a test to show like linpak on this card against say china's new supercomp..

we want hints at gaming performance D=!!!

Mechromancer · 10-30-2009, 05:27 AM

Fermi only has 30 million transistors?

Sam_oslo · 10-30-2009, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamesrt2004

not to "hate" but surely ANY graphics card could render an image like that.. its just the thing is how long/realtime/what fps etc...

its like the dx9 shots.. did we ever see anything as good as them.. not really (ok crysis was pretty close) but you know what i mean

with a maximum of 512 CUDA core, enabling supercomputing performance

lol.. i'd love a test to show like linpak on this card against say china's new supercomp..

we want hints at gaming performance D=!!!

Why "hate"? when all these would result in more competition and better/cheaper GPU for nerds?

Yes any GPU can do that, but it needs a "functional" API. How fast would depend on how much computing power and how many GPU, you know.

This article is more about and Ray-tracing and CUDA-power of .. 512 CUDA core, enabling supercomputing performance .. which makes the GPU to take the role as a CPU.

Nobody knows about the game performance yet, but there is no conflict between a good CUDA-power and a good game-power. The game performance will hopefully surface soon, too.

zalbard · 10-30-2009, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pinacolada

WOW

but most probably it will work only on 1000$+ > "pro" cards

Why? Not necessarily. It will be just slower on cheaper Fermi cards... when they make cheaper Fermi cards.

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Originally Posted by Cold Fussion

At what speed? That does not look real time to me.

Bingo, sir.
There are movies rendered by CPUs that look really excellent (Pixar stuff, Final Fantasy), yet that is not real time.
Anybody can create such pictures at home without Fermi given enough time... 3D Studio Max, Maya, or get some raytracing programs.

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Originally Posted by spicypixel

WTB more info.

+1
Nothing really new there.

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Originally Posted by Jamesrt2004

we want hints at gaming performance D=!!!

Doubt we will get any till it is released, or a week prior to that at best...

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Originally Posted by Mechromancer

Fermi only has 30 million transistors?

"Fermi has surpasses 3,000,000,000 transistors" from the translated page.

Piotrsama · 10-30-2009, 06:07 AM

Looks pre-rendered to me.... so i'm not getting excited.
The 3D model looks realistic, but I want to see that in real time.

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Originally Posted by Mechromancer

Fermi only has 30 million transistors?

It says MORE than...
Way more...

mursaat · 10-30-2009, 06:09 AM

How is this impossible to render with CPUs? I mean if its raytracing, what does Fermi and CUDA have that CPUs doesn't (for raytracing).

Sam_oslo · 10-30-2009, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mursaat

How is this impossible to render with CPUs? I mean if its raytracing, what does Fermi and CUDA have that CPUs doesn't (for raytracing).

Speed!

Any CPU can do the same ray-tracing too, but it is SLOW (compared to the share power of 512-GPU-cores)

Helloworld_98 · 10-30-2009, 06:15 AM

if this is real time, then Fermi is going to cost all of your limbs, a few of your internal organs, and a few of your friends limbs too.

zalbard · 10-30-2009, 06:18 AM

Real time Ruby shown by ATI didn't look bad either.
But this picture is no way a performance indicator. Perhaps it shows the talent of Nvidia 3d artists, that's about it.

Jamesrt2004 · 10-30-2009, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam_oslo

Why "hate"? when all these would result in more competition and better/cheaper GPU for nerds?

Yes any GPU can do that, but it needs a "functional" API. How fast would depend on how much computing power and how many GPU, you know.

This article is more about and Ray-tracing and CUDA-power of .. 512 CUDA core, enabling supercomputing performance .. which makes the GPU to take the role as a CPU.

Nobody knows about the game performance yet, but there is no conflict between a good CUDA-power and a good game-power. The game performance will hopefully surface soon, too.

well i didnt want to seem like i was flaming nvidia or anything, thats all

all we have is that pic and I was just mentioning anything could do it giving enough time etc but we don't know how quick/fast/static/realtime etc

:up

Sam_oslo · 10-30-2009, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by zalbard

Real time Ruby shown by ATI didn't look bad either.
But this picture is no way a performance indicator. Perhaps it shows the talent of Nvidia 3d artists, that's about it.

Real-time ray-tracing is the "holey grail" of the next gen games with realistic scenes. Nobody knows when we get there, but if this GPU can get us one step closer, it is just great.

This article is more PR and "get an idea" of what to come .. . it shouldn't be taken as detailed technical showcase.

Pinacolada · 10-30-2009, 06:30 AM

LOL seems some of you just don't get it - it's not real time and not is going to be any time soon - it's for movies and visual arts where you render frame by frame to make movie or animation.There is big $$$ there.

Now Sony,Pixaar etc instead of buying 1000000 intel cpus to render can buy 1000 Feri cards to do the same but faster.IT's bit deal for 3D rendering and image quality is same as rendered with CPU which is absolutly amazing.Before that renders done with GPU looked like crap now it's same good as with a CPU.

Jamesrt2004 · 10-30-2009, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam_oslo

Real-time ray-tracing is the "holey grail" of the next gen games with realistic scenes. Nobody knows when we get there, but if this GPU can get us one step closer, it is just great.

this..

every new gen thats coming out we are gettign one step closer, and it's getting more and more fun, as (by then) there will be 3 big discrete graphics card makers, and it seems, ALL of them are going in different directions... it truly will be fun to watch over these next few years....

the thing im most interested in atm though.. is ati's supposed new arch for this time next year.. and how "similar" if at all it is to nvidia's gf100.. I think it will be interesting to see what route ati take seeing the general purpose power that nvidia is bringing to the table this time round for dual point stuff etc..

.. ati's way seems good atm so will they just add more or will they change it etc.. who knows.. will be good tho

(one thing to note they always seemed to have a BIG theoretical power) which i hope they unleash in the next arch as obviously something was holding it back..

askimo · 10-30-2009, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam_oslo

Why "hate"? when all these would result in more competition and better/cheaper GPU for nerds?

Yes any GPU can do that, but it needs a "functional" API. How fast would depend on how much computing power and how many GPU, you know.

This article is more about and Ray-tracing and CUDA-power of .. 512 CUDA core, enabling supercomputing performance .. which makes the GPU to take the role as a CPU.

Nobody knows about the game performance yet, but there is no conflict between a good CUDA-power and a good game-power. The game performance will hopefully surface soon, too.

Exactly!! We need more competition

Bojamijams · 10-30-2009, 06:36 AM

That picture is stupid.. the whole article is stupid.. a 6 year graphics card can render a shot like that.. it'll just take a few hours

gallardo · 10-30-2009, 06:37 AM

I'm not sold. That's just some guy's photo.

zalbard · 10-30-2009, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gallardo

I'm not sold. That's just some guy's photo.

Hilarious, I didn't think of what! What if it's true?! I wouldn't be surprised, especially after Fermi's presentation with wooden screws!

G-UNIT91 · 10-30-2009, 06:41 AM

Epic Fake!

Sam_oslo · 10-30-2009, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamesrt2004

this..

every new gen thats coming out we are gettign one step closer, and it's getting more and more fun, as (by then) there will be 3 big discrete graphics card makers, and it seems, ALL of them are going in different directions... it truly will be fun to watch over these next few years....

the thing im most interested in atm though.. is ati's supposed new arch for this time next year.. and how "similar" if at all it is to nvidia's gf100.. I think it will be interesting to see what route ati take seeing the general purpose power that nvidia is bringing to the table this time round for dual point stuff etc..

.. ati's way seems good atm so will they just add more or will they change it etc.. who knows.. will be good tho

(one thing to note they always seemed to have a BIG theoretical power) which i hope they unleash in the next arch as obviously something was holding it back..

I agree, it is an exciting time. These different approaches can bring more options and better GPU for all of us.

ATI has been doing great with 5x-series, and pushing the competition to new level. Intel is trying to get a "share" too, and it is exciting to see where it ends up. Nvidia seams to be choosing a fresh approach to counter the competition. It remains to see where Nvidia ends up in this round, but if I'm not mistaking, then we are looking at rapid lunches with better and cheaper GPUs from all parties ... and it is all good for nerds

dinos22 · 10-30-2009, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ajaidev

i know who this is
it's 3oh6