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Old 06-11-2009, 10:24 PM   #1
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AMD Phenom II TWKR Black Edition spotted



Going into tease mode, Wallace Santos, the CEO of custom PC builder Maingear, has blogged about a 'special' AMD CPU called the Phenom II TWKR Black Edition. Seen below, the quad-core part is supposed to be able to overclock higher than the Phenom II X4 955 BE

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Old 06-11-2009, 10:38 PM   #2
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could this be the 4.4 GHz part we heard about?
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:40 PM   #3
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mmmm, this looks very interesting.... I hope its not fake (I dont think it is)
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:44 PM   #4
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Notice the lack of "x4" or "x" anything. 6 Core Istanbul core mayhap?
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:45 PM   #5
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nah istanbul is all wide shaped isnt it?
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:49 PM   #6
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nah istanbul is all wide shaped isnt it?
Kind of, but the socket is very wide, that is because it has to be able to support a Istanbul MCM part for 45nm.

Istanbul should be able to fit in a AM3 socket on 45nm
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:51 PM   #7
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It is very real. I can confirm.
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:18 PM   #8
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Kind of, but the socket is very wide, that is because it has to be able to support a Istanbul MCM part for 45nm.

Istanbul should be able to fit in a AM3 socket on 45nm
cherry pick silicon with numbers of wafer part ?

Istanbul is server it's on socket 1207

a desktop product is unlikely sever cpu price is a lot higher. more profit there for AMD.

it would be very low clock 6 core BE wattage of 140 watts.

this says it can past 7ghz.
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Old 06-11-2009, 11:24 PM   #9
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Guys its just a quad........best suited for cold conditions.
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1) Normal ES: Available to partners and press before the product actually launches. These are usually close to retail parts, maybe one stepping/node before retails. From my experience (I've had access to AMD & Intel ES CPUs before the official launch around 8 years) normal ES CPUs are actually usually worse than retails because manufacturing process develops all the time and retails keep getting better. Every Phenom II press sample (not even marked as ES but couple weeks earlier than retail parts) I've tested so far have been worse than normal retails.

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Old 06-11-2009, 11:49 PM   #10
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I want the chip but not the box.
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Old 06-12-2009, 12:07 AM   #11
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Probably the 965 or 975
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Old 06-12-2009, 12:18 AM   #12
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I wonder what the stock speed is, and is this meant to perform close to Core i7 or what?
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Old 06-12-2009, 12:25 AM   #13
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It is very real. I can confirm.
oh man, this looks good!

4.4ghz? guaranteed to reach 4.4, or easy to reach 4.4?
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Old 06-12-2009, 12:25 AM   #14
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My guess is that is the "high leakage" CPU some of the guys were talking about after the last AMD overclocking event.
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cherry pick silicon with numbers of wafer part ?

Istanbul is server it's on socket 1207

a desktop product is unlikely sever cpu price is a lot higher. more profit there for AMD.

it would be very low clock 6 core BE wattage of 140 watts.

this says it can past 7ghz.
Well, our Phenom II's are nothing but the exact same chips as the server ones - except ours only has 1 HyperTransportBus enabled. Istanbul migrating could very well be a reality.

Istanbul currently doesn't support DDR3 -Officially- as it's not a priority for AMD and its customers atm, which would make a Dekstop Istanbul going in the wrong direction to become a AM2+ CPU hmm.

But I think the same as you, that it's cherrypicked Deneb.
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Old 06-12-2009, 12:38 AM   #16
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maybe somethink as FX Phenom is this TWKR?
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Everytime something like this happens I feel like poo.

I jumped on an AM2+ Phenom II setup as soon as it was out. If only I waited a bit for AM3, I'd atleast have a better upgrade path.

All these new CPU look brilliant. Specially that the new 6-cores might be out.

Also that box look amazing for a cpu :P If I could I'd buy it just for that.
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Everytime something like this happens I feel like poo.

I jumped on an AM2+ Phenom II setup as soon as it was out. If only I waited a bit for AM3, I'd atleast have a better upgrade path.

All these new CPU look brilliant. Specially that the new 6-cores might be out.

Also that box look amazing for a cpu :P If I could I'd buy it just for that.
but am3 chips work in your board....
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i think, this is not six core, six core coming at 1Q 2010 and not top clocks! Because TDP...This is some diferent. Maybe in new revision C3.
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Old 06-12-2009, 12:47 AM   #20
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but am3 chips work in your board....
Yeah but I was a fool and sold my DDR3 before hand. I want to use that again

I have a thing that I need an entire platform to fit perfectly. So AM3 mobo, with AM3 CPU with DDR3 Ram.

Worse is I know I'd need 3 graphics cards then.

I have a problem I know
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Yeah but I was a fool and sold my DDR3 before hand. I want to use that again

I have a thing that I need an entire platform to fit perfectly. So AM3 mobo, with AM3 CPU with DDR3 Ram.

Worse is I know I'd need 3 graphics cards then.

I have a problem I know
Do you need to turn the lights on and off thirteen times before you enter a room?

I agree though, Why put shiny new tech in a old board that will hold it back? I have never upgraded just a cpu.
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ooh, interesting

but this shouldnt be a ln2 oc chip, why should amd care and bring out a new proc just for that?

it has to clock substantially higher on water for it being interesting to maingear etc.

maingear doesnt sell overclocked cpu, afaik
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it's Quad-core K10

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Do you need to turn the lights on and off thirteen times before you enter a room?

I agree though, Why put shiny new tech in a old board that will hold it back? I have never upgraded just a cpu.
True, I would love it if AMD got some decent ROG boards from Asus.

Although my next build will deffnently be a mATX or iATX if AMD ever get some decent boards that can take a good graphics card.

On a note about the lights on and off. Thank goodness not! Although I measure ( With an actual scale ) the amout of meat and carbs I get in :O I also need something green on my plate at all times. All times!
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bet the house its stock 3.4ghz......looks nice
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