125w Phenom 9950 @ ZZF.

[TheBlueChanell]

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...dlist=celebros

^ordering as soon as my E8400/P5Q-Deluxe/Gskill sells.

[dng]

any difference between this quad compare to the upcoming deneb? sorry i haven't been keeping up with amd's quad cores. i'm itching to go quad cores. i can't believe i've been holding out this long. i got a dfi lan party dark 790fx board. thanks.

[Mechromancer]

I need this thing to hit Newegg.com so I can use my Preferred Account. Also I'm torn between this and the Athlon X2 GE-6600 (whenever it comes out) because the plan is to upgrade to a Deneb down the line. Either way, my bet is that this CPU hits Newegg on Wednesday. They're always a couple of days behind it seems.

[TheBlueChanell]

I need this thing to hit Newegg.com so I can use my Preferred Account. Also I'm torn between this and the Athlon X2 GE-6600 (whenever it comes out) because the plan is to upgrade to a Deneb down the line. Either way, my bet is that this CPU hits Newegg on Wednesday. They're always a couple of days behind it seems.

I'm also waiting for the Asus M3A79-T/9950 125w to hit newegg.

I also plan on getting a deneb so I'm not sure if I want a K10 Dual-core or one of the current Agena's but in all reality you can't beat a Quad for $180.

[MrMojoZ]

any difference between this quad compare to the upcoming deneb?

45nm vs. 65nm. Lower IPC and higher power usage.

[i found nemo]

so ur saying 45nm is lower icp and higher power usage? that don't sound good. or did you mean the other way around?

[xVeinx]

so ur saying 45nm is lower icp and higher power usage? that don't sound good. or did you mean the other way around?

He meant the other way around. Current IPC/performance improvement is about 10% higher than previously, with power consumption perhaps as much as 30-40% lower (based on benchmarks of ES, nothing confirmed of course).

[gOtVoltage]

He meant the other way around. Current IPC/performance improvement is about 10% higher than previously, with power consumption perhaps as much as 30-40% lower (based on benchmarks of ES, nothing confirmed of course).

I am waiting too for 45nm ,but i will buy a 9950 (125watt) at end September to compare to the One i have @140watt.. I think it just may be a surprize Overclockable 65nm Chip . Hope my gut feeling is correct. I cant stand the wait

Patience goes a long way ,at least for me, ATM.

[xPliziT]

I'm also waiting for the Asus M3A79-T/9950 125w to hit newegg.

I also plan on getting a deneb so I'm not sure if I want a K10 Dual-core or one of the current Agena's but in all reality you can't beat a Quad for $180.

Ordered my M3A79-T Deluxe today at Motherboardpro.com !!!!
And a 4870 at newegg lol

[Particle]

The processor's voltage range is listed as x to 1.30V. If this processor runs at 1.30V like our 9850s and current 9950s, it can't be a 125W unless they actually redesigned the core. I doubt that happened. I suspect a mislabel (actually being 140W) or a bad voltage spec provided (< 1.30V stated).

[RobPuba]

Ordered my M3A79-T Deluxe today at Motherboardpro.com !!!!
And a 4870 at newegg lol

Newegg have the M3A79-T Deluxe Now for Cheaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131339

[msimax]

in the features

140W CPU Support – Enhanced Power Design for future CPU upgrade!
100% Japan-made Solid Cap (5000hrs VRM) – Longer Life & Higher Efficiency!

does that mean the board will last for 208 days

[gOtVoltage]

The processor's voltage range is listed as x to 1.30V. If this processor runs at 1.30V like our 9850s and current 9950s, it can't be a 125W unless they actually redesigned the core. I doubt that happened. I suspect a mislabel (actually being 140W) or a bad voltage spec provided (< 1.30V stated).

No ,,its suppose to be new lower TDP and Silocon stepping all together.

Newegg have the M3A79-T Deluxe Now for Cheaper
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131339

If that New DFI/FX dosnt show by the end of the Month ,,i may have to get the M3A79-T instead or 78-T.. I just hope Asus Bioses are better this time around than the First Fx's.

[menace2society]

Is there any difference between the current Gen and this chips performance, does it overclock any better...

I have one of the older ones in the mail, wondering should I return for one of these

[TheBlueChanell]

I'm hoping this 125w 9950 will give us better overclocks than the 140w Variant. I'm ordering my M3A79-T tonight. I may order a X2 5400+ to give me something to play with while I wait for the 9950 125w/X2 GE-6600.

[TheBigWookie]

What designators in the serial let you know this is a 125 W vice a 140 W?

Must be the X


125W = HD995Z X AGHBOX
140w = HD995Z F AGHBOX

[Dumo]

This must be a point of re-entry to AMD for me

Probly still have to deal with cold bug, but its ok

Thanks

[Dumo]

Which mobo do you guys recommend?

Thanks for your help

[Particle]

New stepping eh? That's good news.

[charged3800z24]

the 9950 is the same as the 9850 besides 100mhz... I have noticed on average it OC's better and will require usaully hevy v's to do so.. which results in a Higher TDP...My 9850 ran 2.9 solid and nothing else would work 100% stable regaurdless of v's until the SB750. The 9950 does 200mhz more and needs mor v's to do it even on the Saphire 780g board I have. I have ran both.. same stock v-core same temps etc.. this new chip must have a revison changed or something.. or it is just to stop scaring people away from them. 125w sounds better and 140 has been a thing everyone complains about with the 9950. If someone can prove me wrong please do.. cause I am confused why it is higfher then the 9850 if I am not correct.

[gOtVoltage]

No ,, I think the New 9950 (125watt) helped pave a new path to get 45nm faster..Personally I think the new 9950 was a pre test bed for the New 2.6 45nm AM2+ so well be getting a 125watt hotrod 9950 i think..this will prepare us to jump for the 45nm's when they hit the shelves ..

I wonder 45nm real soon...Hope so

http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20080909PD205.html

[Daveburt714]

Its the same stuff guys... It doesn't make it bad, it's just the nature of CPU tech (as far as I've seen, and my 1st computer was a Commodore Vic20.. )

I would predict that early 45nm Denebs will compete quite well with well tuned 65nm X4's... Similar to how Brisbanes kept up with Windsor cores.

The 9950be is actually a pretty good chip... Hopefully Deneb will be able to beat it in the hands of a good tweaker, but it will still need a little time to mature.

I hope I'm wrong, but if history repeats itself (and I personally think it will), I wouldn't expect miracles from the die shrink/arch changes to Deneb...

I'm sure Deneb will get better with time, but I'm still waiting for Bulldozer.

I have no doubt that AMD can come back with a badazz chip similar to the X2, but I really don't think Deneb is what we're waiting for. It will keep them in the hunt, but it won't be the Intel killer we all want...

[demonkevy666]

Its the same stuff guys... It doesn't make it bad, it's just the nature of CPU tech (as far as I've seen, and my 1st computer was a Commodore Vic20.. )

I would predict that early 45nm Denebs will compete quite well with well tuned 65nm X4's... Similar to how Brisbanes kept up with Windsor cores.

The 9950be is actually a pretty good chip... Hopefully Deneb will be able to beat it in the hands of a good tweaker, but it will still need a little time to mature.

I hope I'm wrong, but if history repeats itself (and I personally think it will), I wouldn't expect miracles from the die shrink/arch changes to Deneb...

I'm sure Deneb will get better with time, but I'm still waiting for Bulldozer.

I have no doubt that AMD can come back with a badazz chip similar to the X2, but I really don't think Deneb is what we're waiting for. It will keep them in the hunt, but it won't be the Intel killer we all want...

this IPC change isn't much.

Only the lowly L3 has gotten nothing else really.

Where have 32 way L3 is now 48 wayL3 in deneb.

I think it's not going anywhere with low 2 way L1 cache then.

Need 8 way L1 cache a boosted 48way L2 can keep L3 48 way too.

Add me in 16 sse1,2,3,4 pre-core that chip would be obnoxiously huge in in size lol then again we should be able to fit in that 1.5" square right ?

how knows maybe it will evolve like the ATI is going with GPU's....

[MrMojoZ]

The 9950 should have been the launch Phenom. ><

[Particle]

Deneb will be a welcome change. Higher clocks and higher IPC are always welcome. A 5% average increase is likely to be under what we actually get, and I'd be happy even with that. ANY increase is always a good thing. Let's not shun it because it isn't twice as fast. It's kind of like when people refuse any alternative energy solution because it isn't perfect. Yeah, it's not an image of perfection, but it's an improvement. Why reject it?